Name 3 HOF'ers you don't think belong

[glynparson]

Dick Williams
Red Schoendienst
George Kell

As for the argument the last 3 outs aren't more important i could not disagree more. like closing out a series is tougher than winning one game so is closing out a game easier than a regular inning. Pressure does exist even for elite athletes.

[Econteachert205]

Ill just argue for one. Sandy Koufax. Depending on how you look at it he had 5-6 really good seasons, 4 of which were out of this world. He did this during an era where pitchers started to dominate. No doubt he was better than many pitchers from that era in the hof (including teammates like Drysdale and Sutton), but I don't think that being the best for five years is good enough. To me his numbers look like Ron Guidry's. Anyone arguing for his induction?

[glynparson]

Ron had a better stretch than many think but it wasn't up to the stretch Koufax had IMHO.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by glynparson

Ron had a better stretch than many think but it wasn't up to the stretch Koufax had IMHO.

Gooden had a great stretch to start his career too. Koufax only won 20 three times.

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Gooden had a great stretch to start his career too. Koufax only won 20 three times.

who cares about pitcher wins??? Koufax had 3 9+WAR seasons and his last 6 seasons he had an ERA under 2 and an FIP of like 2.05 that's elite levels of elite pitching.

plus 54.5 WAR in only a little over 10 year career is pretty damned impressive stuff

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bravos4evr

who cares about pitcher wins??? Koufax had 3 9+WAR seasons and his last 6 seasons he had an ERA under 2 and an FIP of like 2.05 that's elite levels of elite pitching.

plus 54.5 WAR in only a little over 10 year career is pretty damned impressive stuff

He ranks 56th in WAR7. Still impressed? And I see 49.0 WAR next to his name on Baseball Reference.

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