Clown on ebay

[Eric72]

Wait, let me get this straight.

1. Someone scammed you out of a Goudey Babe Ruth
2. You claim that you're attempting to warn others about the scammer
3. To warn people, you listed the Ruth, a card no longer in your possession, for sale on eBay

It's rather early in the morning. I guess there is a part of your logic that I can't quite comprehend yet. Maybe some caffeine will help me figure this out.

[pherbener]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Wait, let me get this straight.

1. Someone scammed you out of a Goudey Babe Ruth
2. You claim that you're attempting to warn others about the scammer
3. To warn people, you listed the Ruth, a card no longer in your possession, for sale on eBay

It's rather early in the morning. I guess there is a part of your logic that I can't quite comprehend yet. Maybe some caffeine will help me figure this out.

I don't think the guy is selling the card. He is supposedly warning people about the seller he got the bad flips from. That being said something seems a bit off about all of this.. Here's a quote from him in another thread. " I actually spoke with the scammer and he admitted that the Jordan is fake. He claims that he is given these counterfeit cards (see other attached pics) and commissioned to scam people through eBay. He also told me he has done this numerous times and even sold a PSA 10 for $18K!!"

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=224088

So you mean to tell me that you spoke to the seller and he admitted to a random ebay buyer that he's breaking the law and gives specifics??

[Leon]

Originally Posted by pherbener

I don't think the guy is selling the card. He is supposedly warning people about the seller he got the bad flips from. That being said something seems a bit off about all of this.. Here's a quote from him in another thread. " I actually spoke with the scammer and he admitted that the Jordan is fake. He claims that he is given these counterfeit cards (see other attached pics) and commissioned to scam people through eBay. He also told me he has done this numerous times and even sold a PSA 10 for $18K!!"

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=224088

So you mean to tell me that you spoke to the seller and he admitted to a random ebay buyer that he's breaking the law and gives specifics??

Sounds like the Mexico connection to me... allegedly been doing it for years and several authoritative entities have investigated him.

[b8tovene]

As a collector myself this scam really worries me, and I for one, appreciate the OP bringing it to our attention. Honest minds never think of things like this - so it takes hearing about something like this, to appreciate just how far people will go to rip you off in this hobby.

That said, PSA MUST address this issue. There must be some process put in place that allows the collector to know that the card and holder are not only original, but also paired with one another.

[glynparson]

They have been verifying high dollar cards at collectors requests for a while now. If anyone has any concerns about a high dollar purchase i would reach out to one of the big dealers like JP or Andy Madec or Heritage and they can have your cards relooked at and slabbed in the new label new holder for you.

[TUM301]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Wait, let me get this straight.

1. Someone scammed you out of a Goudey Babe Ruth
2. You claim that you're attempting to warn others about the scammer
3. To warn people, you listed the Ruth, a card no longer in your possession, for sale on eBay

It's rather early in the morning. I guess there is a part of your logic that I can't quite comprehend yet. Maybe some caffeine will help me figure this out.

I`m with you Eric, this entire "scam" process is very confusing. The stolen PSA slabs would have been great material for a Soppranos episode though !