Name 3 HOF'ers you don't think belong

[pclpads]

Expect to get some heat for this, but I felt the same way about his election as I did Maz'. Maz' only HOF credential was a HR in the '60 WS. With Ozzie, great acrobatic shortstop, but the poster boy for, "good field / no hit." Being a one-trick pony ballplayer shouldn't get you in the HOF. It's why Edgar Martinez should never be in. Career DH and he's a HOF candidate? WTF?

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by pclpads

Expect to get some heat for this, but I felt the same way about his election as I did Maz'. Maz' only HOF credential was a HR in the '60 WS.

The Hall honors greatness, and being the greatest defensive second baseman in the history of the game is reason enough for inclusion among the immortals. The guy had a 23.9 dWAR, and 8 Gold Gloves.

I just don't get the line of thinking many have about the Hall; the guys that put runs on the board for their team....do they have a bigger impact on winning than the guys who help their team keep runs off the board?

A hitter comes to the plate four, maybe five times a game. A defender is out there for nine innings, and at any moment, the ball could be screaming in their direction.

Maz had 11,863 defensive chances at second base. He turned 1,706 double plays. How many hits, or runs, did he prevent with his glove?

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

The Hall honors greatness, and being the greatest defensive second baseman in the history of the game is reason enough for inclusion among the immortals. The guy had a 23.9 dWAR, and 8 Gold Gloves.

I just don't get the line of thinking many have about the Hall; the guys that put runs on the board for their team....do they have a bigger impact on winning than the guys who help their team keep runs off the board?

A hitter comes to the plate four, maybe five times a game. A defender is out there for nine innings, and at any moment, the ball could be screaming in their direction.

Maz had 11,863 defensive chances at second base. He turned 1,706 double plays. How many hits, or runs, did he prevent with his glove?

I can see that argument, but will the Hall put in Andruw Jones? Finest CF'er with the glove of all time, and a better hitter than Maz, Ozzie Smith or Brooks Robinson.

[stargell1]

zero

Every player inducted deserved to get in. And there are a few more who should be.

[ALR-bishop]

Well, every player inducted into the HOF is in the HOF, and someday there will be more players in the HOF. On that we can agree

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pclpads

Expect to get some heat for this, but I felt the same way about his election as I did Maz'. Maz' only HOF credential was a HR in the '60 WS. With Ozzie, great acrobatic shortstop, but the poster boy for, "good field / no hit." Being a one-trick pony ballplayer shouldn't get you in the HOF. It's why Edgar Martinez should never be in. Career DH and he's a HOF candidate? WTF?

Using JAWS, Ozzie ranks well ahead of Jeter and Larkin, interestingly. And I believe that does not even include defense.