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View Poll Results: will the average koufax 7 be able to be purchased at $1750 at anytime w/i 1 year?
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Old 06-19-2016, 01:16 PM
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Thats an interesting trough to current levels on NES. Not all appreciation is linear. Something just becomes hot, I supposse, one day.

So, in reading some of these posts, I paid a pretty penny for a 1934 Gehrig SGC 84 at last year's national. Would that be a card that would benefit from rising vintage prices, or are we thinking that this is just a lot of short-term hot air? I really am sort of lost reading this thread, and I feel stupid for even asking this.
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Old 06-19-2016, 02:10 PM
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Thats an interesting trough to current levels on NES. Not all appreciation is linear. Something just becomes hot, I supposse, one day.

So, in reading some of these posts, I paid a pretty penny for a 1934 Gehrig SGC 84 at last year's national. Would that be a card that would benefit from rising vintage prices, or are we thinking that this is just a lot of short-term hot air? I really am sort of lost reading this thread, and I feel stupid for even asking this.
That card sound like a very very safe bet. Pics welcomed!
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Old 06-19-2016, 02:23 PM
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I am so effing scared to post it on here. You guys are a very well-informed group of people, but I feel like you could talk down the value of the Mona Lisa by 50% if given an endless thread and 2 scans. Haha. I love it just the way it is.

I literally walked the entire floor of the national and found this one and maybe an 8 or 9 for $100k which is many (many) more times than I paid for mine. I could not find anything higher than a 4, so I sorta felt like I had to, because I didn't expect it to be that difficult to find.

I collect 1933 Goudey, but I really love the yellow and green 1934 Gehrig's. I bought the yellow one, and I told the wife all the gory details. She responded with "I trust your judgement." It wasn't happy or mad, but deadly serious.
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I am so effing scared to post it on here. You guys are a very well-informed group of people, but I feel like you could talk down the value of the Mona Lisa by 50% if given an endless thread and 2 scans. Haha. I love it just the way it is.

I literally walked the entire floor of the national and found this one and maybe an 8 or 9 for $100k which is many (many) more times than I paid for mine. I could not find anything higher than a 4, so I sorta felt like I had to, because I didn't expect it to be that difficult to find.

I collect 1933 Goudey, but I really love the yellow and green 1934 Gehrig's. I bought the yellow one, and I told the wife all the gory details. She responded with "I trust your judgement." It wasn't happy or mad, but deadly serious.
There are all types here! Some will flash a Frederick Foto Ruth or a Pinkerton Joe Jackson with zero fanfare, while others may toot a horn over a PSA 8 63 Rose . Makes no difference , we all love cards... So let's see it.
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Unfortunately you will have to wait as I am en route somewhere far away from the card. But i just might eventually.
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There are all types here! Some will flash a Frederick Foto Ruth or a Pinkerton Joe Jackson with zero fanfare, while others may toot a horn over a PSA 8 63 Rose . Makes no difference , we all love cards... So let's see it.
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I am so effing scared to post it on here. You guys are a very well-informed group of people, but I feel like you could talk down the value of the Mona Lisa by 50% if given an endless thread and 2 scans. Haha. I love it just the way it is.

I literally walked the entire floor of the national and found this one and maybe an 8 or 9 for $100k which is many (many) more times than I paid for mine. I could not find anything higher than a 4, so I sorta felt like I had to, because I didn't expect it to be that difficult to find.

I collect 1933 Goudey, but I really love the yellow and green 1934 Gehrig's. I bought the yellow one, and I told the wife all the gory details. She responded with "I trust your judgement." It wasn't happy or mad, but deadly serious.
You can't go wrong on Gehrig, he's the Ironman. I have a photo of him on the wall of my 11 year old son's bedroom. We talk about him all the time, consecutive games, ALS, stats.

To say the next generation will not care or will not know these guys is bogus. I can imagine my son, if he ever had some disposable cash, would buy this card in 30 years; at a minimum, to rekindle the memories of our talks together.
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Thats an interesting trough to current levels on NES. Not all appreciation is linear. Something just becomes hot, I supposse, one day.

So, in reading some of these posts, I paid a pretty penny for a 1934 Gehrig SGC 84 at last year's national. Would that be a card that would benefit from rising vintage prices, or are we thinking that this is just a lot of short-term hot air? I really am sort of lost reading this thread, and I feel stupid for even asking this.
A great looking card like a '34 Gehrig is always going to have strong demand. As long as it is bought decently I don't think it's going to go down much in value.

And as for the supply vs demand argument, I am always on the demand side for valuing something. If there is no demand the supply doesn't matter.
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2025. Getting close to 1750.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sandy-Koufax...718?rmvSB=true
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Well I am sure there is something wrong with that one or it is too close to Thanksgiving or ended at the wrong time. The defenders have many explanations...however none of them have been posting since the summer.
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Old 11-25-2016, 02:36 PM
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Greg, the centering admittedly is not great on this example, but I think it still illustrates how much the market has dropped from that spring/early summer peak, when many thought we would never see certain price levels again.
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I was watching this one last month and thought, wow, this sure is a far cry from the $80,000 this card (another graded 8) received back in the summer!
It was said, money didn't likely exchange hands on that one, (something I still don't understand?) but that was the final selling price.
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Greg, the centering admittedly is not great on this example, but I think it still illustrates how much the market has dropped from that spring/early summer peak, when many thought we would never see certain price levels again.
Absolutely centering hurts this example but it demonstrates a huge market correction because examples like this were bringing 4K during the summer.
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As individuals realize prices are beginning to drop they will rush to monetize whatever they can. The price drop will most likely then accelerate before eventually stabilizing. Wouldn't be surprised to see a psa 7 drop below $1000 within the next 6 months.
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