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Old 06-24-2016, 08:11 PM
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Yeah, you could have asked Jake about the availability of his Cobbs, then he'd respond and ask you what you're willing to pay. Then you'd research historical prices and make a fair offer. Then Jake would say that he "just checked and he doesn't have them in inventory anymore." Remember that Jake? Soliciting an offer on something you already sold? Total waste of my time and total waste of time every time you post about your Cobbs. Stop talking about them.

Congrats to the new owner and the seller, whom I know to be a good dude. Sometimes it's better to pay a premium when dealing with upstanding people.
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:29 PM
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Yeah, you could have asked Jake about the availability of his Cobbs, then he'd respond and ask you what you're willing to pay. Then you'd research historical prices and make a fair offer. Then Jake would say that he "just checked and he doesn't have them in inventory anymore." Remember that Jake? Soliciting an offer on something you already sold? Total waste of my time and total waste of time every time you post about your Cobbs. Stop talking about them.

Congrats to the new owner and the seller, whom I know to be a good dude. Sometimes it's better to pay a premium when dealing with upstanding people.
+1....Well said Sam.....
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Old 06-24-2016, 09:55 PM
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Old 06-25-2016, 05:27 PM
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Yeah, you could have asked Jake about the availability of his Cobbs, then he'd respond and ask you what you're willing to pay. Then you'd research historical prices and make a fair offer. Then Jake would say that he "just checked and he doesn't have them in inventory anymore." Remember that Jake? Soliciting an offer on something you already sold? Total waste of my time and total waste of time every time you post about your Cobbs. Stop talking about them.

Congrats to the new owner and the seller, whom I know to be a good dude. Sometimes it's better to pay a premium when dealing with upstanding people.
Eh.... a bit unfair ....i think people should be aware that CMIZE is biased against whatever i say so to take whatever he says with a grain of salt....... and you made some fantasy allegations ..i like how you say 'researched historical prices....do you do that when you make an offer on a psa 7 rookie Aaron?..im sure you check what one sold for 3 months ago as thats part of history......i love how you tried to fit in that you are fair with 'historical prices'.....depends what historical prices you are using......you do compare what a T206 PSA 8 goes for when you list a PSA8OC like thats very useful info... or even comparing a PSA with a SGC like they always sell real close to each other

i think a lot of sellers agree with me that if we post a price....why bother saying 'whats the lowest you can take' you already have an an asking price sitting there...if you want to make a counter, go ahead...but its not like its a lennox cobb with no price listed .....

if you just paid asking you dont have to worry about making offers and the card selling.........and by the way...you can accuse me for whatever you want...everyone knows i update my pages...when i sell a card i always list that it sold ....not sure why you make up fake scenerios........i dont think anyone will disagree i am very fast in updating listings

i never have solicited an offer if the card sold....if you are an idiot to make an offer on a card i have already posted as 'sold' for several days then maybe you need the time machine discussed in the thread....

sometimes asking price is worth it my friend.....cant always go by 3 month old historical prices....its hysterical to go by historical on 3 month old listings for some waterfront property cards..

all i did was draw attention to the same card that i had listed on net54 that was listed for 3x more and asked if that happened to anyone else...the exact card was posted on ebay so i thought it was interesting to post a comment if that had happened to anyone else......for some reason you are the only one that took offense and wanted to insult..

All i did was make a post..and CMIZE took it upon himself to attack me.....that really makes the forum fun....but no need to be a liar... being a lowballer etc i understand....or even comparing PSA 8 with PSA 8OC..or PSA 8 with an SGC 8 where everyone knows the prices arent equal .but no need to be dishonest...

remember CMIZE, how you said never to email you and you were not to email me evey again...i guess even though my post had nothing to do with you or mention you in any way, you sure took the opportunity post something negative (and untrue) about me.....

(CMIZE refused to give a price on a SGC 5 Cobb back in april....i then said i would want to pay one grade below in a PSA what the SGC was or what a SGC goes for in the same grade and not wanting to pay a PSA price of the same grade, plus i made a typo but changed it immediately ..and he was offended (though he never gave a price and i actually never gave an exact offer) and i guess now will always comment negatively on every post)

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=220520

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Old 06-25-2016, 06:39 PM
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Jake, you're a liar, and I'll prove it. I was a new member, and, after seeing one of your countless posts about your Green Cobbs, I asked if they were available. Instead of telling me they were SOLD, you asked me to give you a price. After I did, you told me you didn't have the inventory. You're a disingenuous blowhard. Attached are the PMs exchanged. After this, I'm done posting as I don't want to take away from actual sellers trying to sell cards they actually possess.
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Old 06-25-2016, 06:51 PM
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why dont you post when the listing said 'SOLD'...

you asked about cards that were sold 4 months earlier? I thought you meant other cards like them of course..as they were listed as SOLD for Months..or thought you were just yanking my chain........i did have an additional 2 Green cobbs (plus i do come across them) but they had sold in a group but obviously the price of what you would of paid for the ones on net54 would be relevant to see if were in the same ballpark so i asked...


You going to ask to buy the 1955 PSA 7.5 Banks? How about the Jackie Robinson PSA 5 that sold a year ago... I thought it was silly to offer 4k for a green cobb that goes for 8k..i guess those were the historical prices you were looking at...

plus MANY MANY posts about that the green cobbs had sold.....i think people complained that i kept mentioning about those cards sold too many times............... maybe you should spend more time looking at the listings to see if a card has sold or not then lowballing and you wont waste peoples time....


I thought your offer of 4k was really really lowballing for that type of card that goes for 7-8k... i was polite in my response....but yeah i guess i should of said i wont ever think to contact you if come across one... i did give you some fluff in that last response but i thought it was nicer than saying 'why are you lowballing'...

funny you are the one that offered 4k that is thousands below what the card is worth and you attacking me... great use of historical pricing..


I honestly didnt think you were serious about any of the exact green cobbs cards on net54 i had listed as everyone and their mother knew they were sold ...months before your email.....but figured since i had other 4s i could see if you were serious...which you werent.. sorry for the misundestanding

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As stated in my prior post....

i never have solicited an offer if the card sold....if you are an idiot to make an offer on a card i have already posted as 'sold' for several days then maybe you need the time machine discussed in the thread.


Thus if you want to say i solicited an offer on a card that is sold....that assumes i thought it was a real offer...which it wasnt.....its not like i countered or tried to get you to offer more......i guess you are the idiot to make an offer on a card i have already posted as 'sold'

i actually thought you were pulling my chain about the cards in the beginning...so didnt think you were serious......but like i said 'heck i got another card plus i do come across them time to time.. so maybe he is serious but it turned out you werent really serious with that kind of offer...


For example: If you want to ask about a 1952 Topps PSA 5 Mantle from 2 years ago that sold..and you offered $10000 for it now.....i dont think thats really an offer being solicited..its just someone trying to waste someones time... 'and thats all i got to say about that..

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I literally can't tell if you're not that intelligent or just a liar, or both. The offer was in September of last year, as the PM clearly shows. You called the offer, which was 20% above VCP at the time, "fair" and consistent with what you sold them for. Not my words, yours. To say that an offer from 9 months ago was low compared to prices today is just kind of silly, Jake, don't you think? That said, the offer is irrelevant. You should have never asked for one as you did not have the cards.

Your words show the type of dude you are. I can look past the ellipses and the incessant commenting in other BST threads, but you've been proven to be a liar, and that doesn't sit well with me. Just admit what you did, and move on. At the end of the day, it's not a huge deal. But denying it and hurling accusations my way makes you look even worse.
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I literally can't tell if you're not that intelligent or just a liar, or both. The offer was in September of last year, as the PM clearly shows. You called the offer, which was 20% above VCP at the time, "fair" and consistent with what you sold them for. Not my words, yours. To say that an offer from 9 months ago was low compared to prices today is just kind of silly, Jake, don't you think? That said, the offer is irrelevant. You should have never asked for one as you did not have the cards.

Your words show the type of dude you are. I can look past the ellipses and the incessant commenting in other BST threads, but you've been proven to be a liar, and that doesn't sit well with me. Just admit what you did, and move on. At the end of the day, it's not a huge deal. But denying it and hurling accusations my way makes you look even worse.
Trust me Sam, he's an idiot...
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Old 06-25-2016, 07:21 PM
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I literally can't tell if you're not that intelligent or just a liar, or both. The offer was in September of last year, as the PM clearly shows. You called the offer, which was 20% above VCP at the time, "fair" and consistent with what you sold them for. Not my words, yours. To say that an offer from 9 months ago was low compared to prices today is just kind of silly, Jake, don't you think? That said, the offer is irrelevant. You should have never asked for one as you did not have the cards.

Your words show the type of dude you are. I can look past the ellipses and the incessant commenting in other BST threads, but you've been proven to be a liar, and that doesn't sit well with me. Just admit what you did, and move on. At the end of the day, it's not a huge deal. But denying it and hurling accusations my way makes you look even worse.

right i admitted when i said 'fair' it was fluff which was before your last post....(the fact i never contacted you again with new green cobbs shows how fair i think your offer was)..i thought it was nicer then saying you are a lowballer....the cards were clearly going for much more than that as you know.......

i think your offer and and historical pricing speaks for itself as well.....


Also one more important thing... I NEVER SAID THEY WERE STILL FOR SALE. ....i asked how much for either of the cards that were listed.......i didnt say how much for either card that is for sale... you can assume whatever you want...but i never said they were for still for sale


I do think everyone on net54 knew those cards were sold....heck on this thread i mentioned them being sold yet again....and you piped in with your comments... if someone asks me about whether those cards are for sale now, yeah im going to say how much do you want to offer for them because only an idiot would still think they are available but if they are serious i would let them know immediately thereafter that if i came across a card like that to see if its worth my time to obtain....

you certainly harbor some ill will to bring something up from 9 months ago where my last comment was very polite to you...........funny you said ZERO until now... you didnt have any problems until now.

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