the crazy price thread...

[pokerplyr80]

https://www.goodwinandco.com/mobile/...entoryid=33087

Thats the one everyone will be talking about tomorrow.

[begsu1013]

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[pokerplyr80]

Yea after this one it will start attracting some more attention. Kaline probably will too.

And yea I'm sure the consignor is going nuts. I'm assuming that was a special auction just for that set. He probably had less into the whole lot than what the Koufax alone went for, if he had it for a while.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Yea after this one it will start attracting some more attention. Kaline probably will too.

And yea I'm sure the consignor is going nuts. I'm assuming that was a special auction just for that set. He probably had less into the whole lot than what the Koufax alone went for, if he had it for a while.

The Koufax went for many multiples of a what a nice vg '55 set would go for.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Leon

The Koufax went for many multiples of a what a nice vg '55 set would go for.

what was SMR on the Koufax

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[ullmandds]

Goodwin typically brings very strong prices. No evidence of Shilling im aware of...but I have always been skeptical(surprise surprse)!

QUOTE=begsu1013;1556897]i don't know much about goodwin auctions*,

but what is the consensus on his reputability?

things like shilling, are they trustworthy, dubious past or anything?

trying to gauge the validity of this one...






* i bought my 51b signed mantle in an auction a while back. first and last time i ever logged on to his site. i never follow/bid in private auction houses.[/QUOTE]

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

i don't know much about goodwin auctions*,

but what is the consensus on his reputability?

things like shilling, are they trustworthy, dubious past or anything?

trying to gauge the validity of this one...






* i bought my 51b signed mantle in an auction a while back. first and last time i ever logged on to his site. i never follow/bid in private auction houses.

Bill is a member here and has discussed a couple of other auctions that ended with what seemed like crazy prices at the time. I've had a couple of conversations with him but don't know him personally. I have no reason to doubt his credibility or the validity of his auctions.

Whether or not 80k will be the new standard for a centered 8 Koufax remains to be seen, but that's a lot more than I would have guessed even in today's market.

[irv]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

https://www.goodwinandco.com/mobile/...entoryid=33087

Thats the one everyone will be talking about tomorrow.

Wow! Over $80,000!

[irv]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

https://www.goodwinandco.com/mobile/...entoryid=33087

Thats the one everyone will be talking about tomorrow.

Just trying to gauge here. If this 8 sold for just over $80,000 what would, assuming all things being equal, a 9 then a 10 go for?

[rats60]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

https://www.goodwinandco.com/mobile/...entoryid=33087

Thats the one everyone will be talking about tomorrow.

PSA 8 Koufax rookie sold for 18k last night on Ebay/PWCC. Is the hype dying down or have we been seeing false sales?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by rats60

PSA 8 Koufax rookie sold for 18k last night on Ebay/PWCC. Is the hype dying down or have we been seeing false sales?

hype? for overproduced 50's-60's HOF'ers??????????

it appears quite obvious what has been going on here...open your eyes folks!

[Neal]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

hype? for overproduced 50's-60's HOF'ers??????????

it appears quite obvious what has been going on here...open your eyes folks!

disagree on "overproduced" .....

kinda sorta agree on the other part

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Neal

disagree on "overproduced" .....

kinda sorta agree on the other part

fair enough...i retract the "overproduced" comment...how about common?

[1961 Fleer Guy]

Last night PWCC auctioned off a 1969 Lew Alcinder (R) in PSA 9. The population for this card in PSA 9 is 18. The price guide says the card is worth $17,500. The card sold for over $73,000. Does this qualify for crazy price?

[irv]

Originally Posted by rats60

PSA 8 Koufax rookie sold for 18k last night on Ebay/PWCC. Is the hype dying down or have we been seeing false sales?

I posted one that sold for $80,600 then another 8 that sold for $23,000, and now this one sells for $18,000. Hard to say with 100% certainty, but I'd say things are either bursting or we're in a correction period at the moment?

I have also been watching some Mantles, (and others) as of late and it could just be me, but I also believe they are not fetching what they once were just a short time ago?

Originally Posted by 1961 Fleer Guy

Last night PWCC auctioned off a 1969 Lew Alcinder (R) in PSA 9. The population for this card in PSA 9 is 18. The price guide says the card is worth $17,500. The card sold for over $73,000. Does this qualify for crazy price?

Just a guess, but this may have to do with the fact that Basketball cards are far more scarce/rare than what baseball cards are?

With most collectibles such as coins, art, stamps, comic books, etc, etc, their prices are based on rarity rather than popularity imo. Maybe this is what is now happening in the card market too?

[MetsBaseball1973]

Originally Posted by irv

I posted one that sold for $80,600 then another 8 that sold for $23,000, and now this one sells for $18,000. Hard to say with 100% certainty, but I'd say things are either bursting or we're in a correction period at the moment?

I have also been watching some Mantles, (and others) as of late and it could just be me, but I also believe they are not fetching what they once were just a short time ago?



Just a guess, but this may have to do with the fact that Basketball cards are far more scarce/rare than what baseball cards are?

With most collectibles such as coins, art, stamps, comic books, etc, etc, their prices are based on rarity rather than popularity imo. Maybe this is what is now happening in the card market too?

Three Mantles I was watching (just checked to be sure, a PSA 7 '56, a PSA 7 '59, and a PSA 9 '69) all sold the other day in line with the highs. All were really nice looking cards. I had a little war chest to spend but lost on the first two. Congrats to whoever won them.

[bobbyw8469]

I posted one that sold for $80,600 then another 8 that sold for $23,000, and now this one sells for $18,000. Hard to say with 100% certainty, but I'd say things are either bursting or we're in a correction period at the moment?

LOL....is this a correction period, or just a simple case of one month of sales from a small group of buyers trying to "pump up" the market that had no legs? I mean, $80,000 for a PSA 8 when, just this past February, this was an $8,000 card???

[botn]

Originally Posted by rats60

PSA 8 Koufax rookie sold for 18k last night on Ebay/PWCC. Is the hype dying down or have we been seeing false sales?

Some might tell you this 8 was not centered well or was a low end example but I will stick to my conclusion, which is a market correction and let the dreamers dream and the spinners spin. Very clear what is taking place. It was clear when this game began where things would end up.