First time I’ve been ripped off

[khkco4bls]

Let's talk about Jonathan for a minute he did this deal with me talked about how much he was so excited to get these items and so excited to have all these bats and the ball he was so excited to put them in his collection this is what he was telling me when we made the deal told me to ship the whole bag of items to Pennsylvania where his buddy lives. Jonathan is in Washington state. Then he proceeded the next day to have his friend put them all up on eBay for profit I have no problem with him doing that he should have just told me that in the first place and I'm telling you right now since he couldn't hawk the baseball and make money on it he wants to return it 4 months later 4 months. not a week, week and a half for months so who Shady here Jonathan. and obviously appears to me that Jonathan didn't do is homework. Yes I do have the same ball in the box that is going up in REA including my whole collection in October I'm not going to the National. Jonathan is nothing but an eBay store looking to make profit on everything he buys it's not for his collection like he says. The guy emailed me last week and asked you have any more baseballs to sell and then he comes up with this. So let's make sure we tell the whole story Jonathan not just what you think in your head. And yes I bought mine with the box from Bob McCann I didn't get ripped off in any way when I bought them so let's stop all that nonsense and Bob McCann obviously Miss informed me of the dating of the ball

[khkco4bls]

By the way how my basketball item wound up in somebody else's thread I don't know and didn't know until I read this it was supposed to be on the my own thread

[khkco4bls]

I have never ever had a problem selling items to anybody on here or outside of here until now he will get his refund I got to get it together. But his partner in Pennsylvania who ever it is I'm nothing but an eBay store or Hawking items that they buy from other people. That kind of bothered me because he tells me how excited he was to get all these items he's full of crap

[gnaz01]

4 months????

[ibuysportsephemera]

4 months and items being sent for a quick turn to the eBay store....And now the plot thickens, can't wait for the response from Jonathan.

Jeff

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

and the other shoe drops.

[7nohitter]

Talk about FIREWORKS!!!! BOOM!

[gnaz01]

[savedfrommyspokes]

Could these be some of the bats?

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw...-1911&_sacat=0

[EvilKing00]

Ball not being from the year / era is a problem

4 month return also a problem

Cut the ball in half and return 1/2 and refund half the money -

[Dewey]

I'm guessing he doesn't have it. But that's the problem. It's a guess because he hasn't communicated with OP (and secondarily to future potential buyers). Communication doesn't seem to be his forte to be frank. Hope for all involved this is resolved soon.

Originally Posted by khkco4bls

I have never ever had a problem selling items to anybody on here or outside of here until now he will get his refund I got to get it together.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Dewey

I'm guessing he doesn't have it. But that's the problem. It's a guess because he hasn't communicated with OP (and secondarily to future potential buyers). Communication doesn't seem to be his forte to be frank. Hope for all involved this is resolved soon.

so someone with 1000s of dollars of merchandise and in the business of selling a ton of stuff doesnt have a few hundred dollars...you would think someone in teh business in buying an selling has a few hundred dollars (of at least credit no less by credit card) to refund..

i got a feeling if this seller was arrested for something and needed 500 dollars bail to give to a bondsman he wouldnt have to get it together..he would have it

[packs]

Re: the refund thing, I bought an item from a big auction house which they then shipped to the wrong address. This AH made me wait until they had received a refund from the post office before they would refund me. I thought it was BS and will never bid with them again. You should refund immediately every time.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by packs

Re: the refund thing, I bought an item from a big auction house which they then shipped to the wrong address. This AH made me wait until they had received a refund from the post office before they would refund me. I thought it was BS and will never bid with them again. You should refund immediately every time.

What AH?

Maybe a couple members will also stop bidding with them.

Some will only bid on their items IF they really want them and MIGHT pass on something not real important.

Most will say that sucks and keep bidding just like before because it didn't happen to them.

[Griffins]

Originally Posted by packs

Re: the refund thing, I bought an item from a big auction house which they then shipped to the wrong address. This AH made me wait until they had received a refund from the post office before they would refund me. I thought it was BS and will never bid with them again. You should refund immediately every time.

I got an empty box from an AH. Called them right away, waited 4 months, and then was told I'd need to provide character references before they could refund me. And the guy said "if I refund you're money I'm out the card and the money, right now you're only missing the card, so that seems fairer"
Finally got my money back, never bid with the guy again at any AH he's been to.

Takes a while to build a reputation, but seconds to kill it.

[boneheadandrube]

Originally Posted by khkco4bls

Let's talk about Jonathan for a minute he did this deal with me talked about how much he was so excited to get these items and so excited to have all these bats and the ball he was so excited to put them in his collection this is what he was telling me when we made the deal told me to ship the whole bag of items to Pennsylvania where his buddy lives. Jonathan is in Washington state. Then he proceeded the next day to have his friend put them all up on eBay for profit I have no problem with him doing that he should have just told me that in the first place and I'm telling you right now since he couldn't hawk the baseball and make money on it he wants to return it 4 months later 4 months. not a week, week and a half for months so who Shady here Jonathan. and obviously appears to me that Jonathan didn't do is homework. Yes I do have the same ball in the box that is going up in REA including my whole collection in October I'm not going to the National. Jonathan is nothing but an eBay store looking to make profit on everything he buys it's not for his collection like he says. The guy emailed me last week and asked you have any more baseballs to sell and then he comes up with this. So let's make sure we tell the whole story Jonathan not just what you think in your head. And yes I bought mine with the box from Bob McCann I didn't get ripped off in any way when I bought them so let's stop all that nonsense and Bob McCann obviously Miss informed me of the dating of the ball

Hi Kevin, my name is Greg. I'm the friend of Jonathan's in Pennsylvania you mentioned. Jonathan is new to memorabilia and I've been around long enough to be able to help a little with advice on old baseball bats. Yes, he was very excited about the bats he bought from you. He was still a little nervous about such a big purchase and he asked me to have a look at them and tell him what I knew about them before sending them along to him with a few other bats that I had already sold him.

Unfortunately the bats that you sent were mostly in rough condition, with two "bats" from the 19th century that barely qualified as pieces of baseball equipment. I think one used to be a bat (cut in half) or the handle of a farm tool and another looks more like a banister piece/stairway railing post to me. Another bat was barely held together with grip tape or else it was two pieces.

You shipped them all inside a bat bag thrown into a large box. Normally this wouldn't have been that big of a deal, but you included the Eddie Collins Mini Decal Bat (wrapped in one layer of bubble wrap) just thrown in with the big heavier bats and it lost about 20% of the decal that was on it before you shipped it. Most of it was in a pile of crumbs stuck inside the bubble wrap. I really don't know much about old baseballs so I couldn't be of much help to him with that baseball unfortunately.

Anyway, when I informed him of the overall quality of the bats he decided that he didn't want them. He was both upset that he made a purchase without knowing enough about what he was buying and discouraged about the whole deal he had made with you. Instead of asking for a full refund he decided to "take his lumps" as a learning experience and move on hoping that his "cool baseball" would be the saving grace of the deal. So, I offered to list the bats (that were actually bats) on my ebay ID in an auction style with starting bids just under his individual cost. About half of the bats sold for the starting price or one small bid higher. The other half did not sell.

To say he was trying to make a profit is making you look foolish Kevin. Don't forget the 10% ebay fee and the 3% ppal fee were subtracted from those sales, and half didn't sell. They were sold to ease the financial pain of a horrible deal with you.

As for the ball, neither of us knew anything about it so he did research on his own after I mailed it to him...and here we are. Why don't you just refund him? He was too nice to not just send everything back in the first place. You are an ameturish "picker" with a basement full of 30 years of leftover fleamarket junk you gathered, not a memorabilia expert. You were wrong about the ball. Man up sir!

Greg Bishop