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Old 07-08-2016, 09:38 PM
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How about this beauty? I sent this scan to Joe Orlando questioning the high grade but I have not received a reply as yet.

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Not sure what's wrong. I can easily see that as a 2.5 or 3. Edge and corner wear is consistent with the grade, and a single crease away from the main features of the card isn't going to downgrade it from VG. Unless that piece is totally detached and should be poor/authentic?
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Not sure what's wrong. I can easily see that as a 2.5 or 3. Edge and corner wear is consistent with the grade, and a single crease away from the main features of the card isn't going to downgrade it from VG. Unless that piece is totally detached and should be poor/authentic?
But...isn't that pen marking on the back? If so, someone has some explaining to do
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not sure what's wrong. I can easily see that as a 2.5 or 3. Edge and corner wear is consistent with the grade, and a single crease away from the main features of the card isn't going to downgrade it from vg. Unless that piece is totally detached and should be poor/authentic?
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Presuming no writing on the back, I would have expected VG-EX or EX on the other cards you showed. Obviously their eye appeal is higher. Maybe you should be angry at SGC for undergrading?
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Presuming no writing on the back, I would have expected VG-EX or EX on the other cards you showed. Obviously their eye appeal is higher. Maybe you should be angry at SGC for undergrading?
Writing on the back would not obtain that number grade. Angry at SGC - how foolish.
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That is a cogent, insightful analysis of the PSA business model.

As for the OP, I've had it go both ways. Best crack out I ever had was a PSA 2 1954 Bowman that looked flawless. I busted it out and got a 7.

I've only tried to bump cards once. I got 2/15 bumped but they were the best two cards in the lot so go figure.
How does a card that was originally graded a 2 end up getting a 7?

Like someone has said on here, PSA stands for "Please Submit Again"

Curious, did you ever ask how it ended up getting a 7 after it was originally graded a 2?
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On a related side note, I'm wondering when someone will come up with software/program that can determine counterfeits, altered cards and give more consistent grades?!

In the meantime, I ponder why these companies don't come up with some guidelines for their graders that would provide more consistent grading.
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