Indirect witch hunt @ buyers who don't pay, after an "I'll take it"

[VintageJay]

Hi Leon,

I haven't backed out of any. There was this deal, which wasn't backing out just miscommunication on my part due to being away for work across the country and not checking my personal email.

And there was another deal that should have gone through on Friday if it hadn't been for the OP messaging a "friend" who then decided to cancel the deal.

The OP is calling this a "witch hunt", and he couldn't be more correct about that. Though, I'm not sure if he knows the meaning of that term.

I can give you both names if you want. I'm being called out for no reason so I don't think it would be a big deal to name them.

Also, I appreciate those who have PM'd me showing their support. A couple of bad eggs aren't going to ruin this for me.

Thanks,
Jay

[whitehse]

Seems to me these type of threads are becoming more common here.

A wise man once said "baseball is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball."

Shouldn't the B/S/T be the same thing? "You post an item, you get an offer, you get paid for the item and you ship the item!"

I just don't understand why this is so hard.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by whitehse

Seems to me these type of threads are becoming more common here.



A wise man once said "baseball is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball."



Shouldn't the B/S/T be the same thing? "You post an item, you get an offer, you get paid for the item and you ship the item!"



I just don't understand why this is so hard.

+1

[shammus]

Originally Posted by VintageJay

Hi Leon,

I haven't backed out of any. There was this deal, which wasn't backing out just miscommunication on my part due to being away for work across the country and not checking my personal email.

I think you might be missing the point here. The main issue really isn't communication, although, yes, that's an important part of it too. The issue I'm seeing is that you committed to buying a card and said you were going to get the card paid for, twice, on a specific day and time and then didn't do it. So, the impression that I have here is that you didn't keep your word, in addition to the communication issues.

Also, according to Josh in his original post, the 2nd individual also had issues with you not communicating/following up on a transaction. I can let Josh comment further if he chooses but I didn't get the impression from Josh's post that that deal died because Josh's friend backed out of it.

...I'm being called out for no reason...

Disagreed. If you're not following up and making good on your end of a transaction, that is something that we want to hear about on the board as that's not the way we do business here. One incident isn't such a bad thing, mistakes happen, we get that. However, per Josh's post, he didn't start this thread because of what happened between you and him. He started this because you had balked on a second transaction between yourself and a friend of his, making this a repeat occurrence in my book.

[Luke]

I was going to stay out of this, but since you're asking Brian, I'm the second one. I knew that he he had left Josh hanging, but figured I'd give him a chance.

He claimed one of my cards on Tuesday night via email. I replied saying "you got it, here's my paypal info...".

About 24 hours later I hadn't received payment or heard from him so I asked if he still wanted to buy the card or if he changed his mind (the knowledge that he had bailed before recently made me want to just ask him and get it over with if so).

He says, "I'll pay first thing Friday morning."

I said that was ok but told him that if he knew he wasn't going to be able to pay for 3 days, it would have been nice to let me know and ask if that was ok.

On Friday morning at 11:00am Pacific I just cancelled it because "first thing Friday morning" had come and gone in all time zones and again he hadn't sent me any messages to tell me what was going on.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by LukeLyon

I was going to stay out of this, but since you're asking Brian, I'm the second one. I knew that he he had left Josh hanging, but figured I'd give him a chance.

He claimed one of my cards on Tuesday night via email. I replied saying "you got it, here's my paypal info...".

About 24 hours later I hadn't received payment or heard from him so I asked if he still wanted to buy the card or if he changed his mind (the knowledge that he had bailed before recently made me want to just ask him and get it over with if so).

He says, "I'll pay first thing Friday morning."

I said that was ok but told him that if he knew he wasn't going to be able to pay for 3 days, it would have been nice to let me know and ask if that was ok.

On Friday morning at 11:00am Pacific I just cancelled it because "first thing Friday morning" had come and gone in all time zones and again he hadn't sent me any messages to tell me what was going on.

Thanks for posting Luke. I have a new addition to my ignore list.

[FirstYearCards]

Can't we just add in last line of post: Payment due within 24 hours of "I'll take it." or PM sent.

[K-Nole]

Originally Posted by LukeLyon

I was going to stay out of this, but since you're asking Brian, I'm the second one. I knew that he he had left Josh hanging, but figured I'd give him a chance.

He claimed one of my cards on Tuesday night via email. I replied saying "you got it, here's my paypal info...".

About 24 hours later I hadn't received payment or heard from him so I asked if he still wanted to buy the card or if he changed his mind (the knowledge that he had bailed before recently made me want to just ask him and get it over with if so).

He says, "I'll pay first thing Friday morning."

I said that was ok but told him that if he knew he wasn't going to be able to pay for 3 days, it would have been nice to let me know and ask if that was ok.

On Friday morning at 11:00am Pacific I just cancelled it because "first thing Friday morning" had come and gone in all time zones and again he hadn't sent me any messages to tell me what was going on.

BTW Luke,
You have my word, spoken here, in this thread, that I WILL make my payment to you on our deal, on Friday.
I take pride in my word, and you can feel good about our deal.

[VintageJay]

I'm done. Please delete my account, Leon. I'm not in this hobby to deal with whining kids. Enough is enough.

Take care,
Jay

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by VintageJay

Also, I appreciate those who have PM'd me showing their support. A couple of bad eggs aren't going to ruin this for me.

Thanks,
Jay

c'mon this is a lie, no one...NO ONE has pm'd you showing their support. lol~!

Originally Posted by VintageJay

I'm done. Please delete my account, Leon. I'm not in this hobby to deal with whining kids. Enough is enough.

Take care,
Jay

yea best move you could do here...start over with a new account, and maybe try not to reneg on deals going forward.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by LukeLyon

About 24 hours later I hadn't received payment or heard from him so I asked if he still wanted to buy the card or if he changed his mind (the knowledge that he had bailed before recently made me want to just ask him and get it over with if so).

He says, "I'll pay first thing Friday morning."

What I'd like to know from VintageJay is this, and it is a simple question that should be answered: If he has the time to send an email telling the seller he will pay, how much more time would it take to instead go into his PayPal account and PAY?

I don't know how much the second deal was worth, but the first one was less than $35.00. I'm not thinking a busy man who has a job that flies him around is needing to wait for his next paycheck to clear, to come up with that kind of dough.

Basically, as I read it, VintageJay's sole excuse is that he's just so darn busy. Well, he has time to email to say "I'll take it," he has time to email to promise payment, and he has time to post on this thread, insulting and name-calling the OP.

I, for one, am glad the OP posted this, and with over 40 posts, it appears others care about the issue too.

So again I ask, VintageJay, with all the time you have to commit to buy, to promise to pay, and to post on the thread... why couldn't you just find a minute to actually pay???