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Old 07-26-2016, 05:52 PM
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My two are Ken Boyer and Gil Hodges, followed closely by Dick Allen and Minnie Minoso.

The boat has probably left the pier on all of these guys, who knows, it's fun to talk about :-)
Minoso is a good one I forgot.
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Old 07-26-2016, 06:36 PM
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Minoso is a good one I forgot.
The HOF should be embarrassed, Minnie Minoso isn't gracing their walls!

It's an absolute travesty, imo that he wasn't selected years ago, let alone last year, his last chance and while he was still alive.

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Trammell is the only guy that really stands out to me. He should go in as soon as the Veterans Committee elects him. The problem with Whitaker is what about Grich. Garvey, what about Keith Hernandez. Munson, what about Simmons. Murphy, what about Maris. When you let in borderline guys then you start pushing the boundary down. I think it is going to happen because steroid guys aren't getting in and they need to keep electing players.
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Whitaker and Grich are both well qualified. Putting Grich in wouldn't push the line down at all. WAR isn't everything, but it's pretty good, and Grich leads Craig Biggio by 5 (basically, one all-star quality season), to take one recent and well-qualified HOF second baseman.

"If Garvey, why not Hernandez" works, except that Garvey is hilariously under qualified, whereas Hernandez has a case. (Not one that I'd support, but a case.) It helps that Hernandez was probably the best defender ever at first base. Garvey, by contrast, has a 3 WAR lead over Travis Fryman. So if you think that Travis Fryman is pretty close to being a hall of famer, then Garvey has a case. If you think that Travis Fryman isn't anywhere close to being a hall of famer, probably best to forget about Garvey.

Munson probably would have had a good argument if he had lived. But it's hard to put together a hall of fame career in 11 seasons unless you're Sandy Koufax or something.
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