PWCC and eBay: Commitment to an Honest Bidding Environment

[irv]

While this is all very well with regards to shill bidding and bid retractions, I find it hard, considering E-Bay still allows sellers such as Battlefield to continue selling, that anything more and above what we currently have as far as rules and procedures go, will be enhanced?

I know this is not your issue or what you are talking about here, and in no way shape or form is this directed at you, but personally, I really don't see a lot changing with E-Bay unless there is money in it for them?

[Snapolit1]

Thanks Brent. You have a good thing going. While I don't expect you or any auction house to root out the duplicitous behavior some of our fellow collectors engage in, I applaud your effort to do what you can reasonably do.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by irv

While this is all very well with regards to shill bidding and bid retractions, I find it hard, considering E-Bay still allows sellers such as Battlefield to continue selling, that anything more and above what we currently have as far as rules and procedures go, will be enhanced?

I know this is not your issue or what you are talking about here, and in no way shape or form is this directed at you, but personally, I really don't see a lot changing with E-Bay unless there is money in it for them?

Like you said this has nothing to do with Brent, however if he is in a position of influence with ebay (something very few people are) It'd be cool if he could address, counterfeits, doctored cards etc... It's a slow day when I don't report a dozen counterfeits being sold as reprints, I've even tried to get Topps involved in protecting their copyrights, but apparently they don't see the secondary market as a large concern (short-sighted at best)

So Brent, what about maybe pitching the idea of an "advisory" group specific to sporting collectibles to the powers that be at Ebay. Not to enact policy, but to make suggestions and be able to explain to Ebay managers who aren't card savvy the many issues (legal as well as "merely" ethical) surrounding so many of the listings? I imagine ebay sees shutting down bad sellers as a loss of revenue, but I maintain that a safe and secure environment could do nothing but improve the revenues in the long run.

See you at the National!

[nsaddict]

I do appreciate you coming on this board, as many would stay clear. As an example, the bidder on the 51B Mays with the 275 feedback total should NOT be allowed to participate in my opinion. There should be a limit of retractions at some level. And I don't get why some bidders feel the need to bid 30-40 times on a single auction?


30-Day Summary
Total bids: 318
Items bid on: 76
Bid activity (%) with this seller: 66% Help
Bid retractions: 4
Bid retractions (6 months): 17

[Snapolit1]

17 bid retractions is absurd. Someone's clearly playing games.

Hard to point to lots of bids on same auction as meaning anything. Some people like to slow walk it for days. I guess that's their prerogative. Maybe they enjoy the game that way.

[swarmee]

Posted on Blowout since that's where I found this post first:
If eBay really cared about fighting shill bidding, they would stop encrypting bidder IDs. That's one way to control shill bidding. Allow other users to track bidders from item to item, and allow you and other consignors to see when bidder IDs on your items are made by the consignor or their friends.

Until then, it's just lip service.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Posted on Blowout since that's where I found this post first:
If eBay really cared about fighting shill bidding, they would stop encrypting bidder IDs. That's one way to control shill bidding. Allow other users to track bidders from item to item, and allow you and other consignors to see when bidder IDs on your items are made by the consignor or their friends.

Until then, it's just lip service.

That used to be policy, however too many people used that information to circumvent ebay fees and sell off site. I know nobody on here would ever try and circumvent fees for a service they use >cough< paypal >cough< but it did happen and that was how they chose to combat it.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Like you said this has nothing to do with Brent, however if he is in a position of influence with ebay (something very few people are) It'd be cool if he could address, counterfeits, doctored cards etc... It's a slow day when I don't report a dozen counterfeits being sold as reprints, I've even tried to get Topps involved in protecting their copyrights, but apparently they don't see the secondary market as a large concern (short-sighted at best)

So Brent, what about maybe pitching the idea of an "advisory" group specific to sporting collectibles to the powers that be at Ebay. Not to enact policy, but to make suggestions and be able to explain to Ebay managers who aren't card savvy the many issues (legal as well as "merely" ethical) surrounding so many of the listings? I imagine ebay sees shutting down bad sellers as a loss of revenue, but I maintain that a safe and secure environment could do nothing but improve the revenues in the long run.

See you at the National!

It's about transparency/credibility to me. If, like Brent states, E-Bay is going to work with him, I take that with a grain of salt, or as someone else said, it's just lip service as they currently don't follow or obey even their own rules and guidelines, but in fact reward corrupt/shoddy sellers, (with tons of negative feedback) with rewards/logos such as "Top Rated Plus"

Currently, battlefield has a lot of cards listed on E-Bay with a lot of bids, so if E-Bay wants us to believe they are a stand up company and are forever making improvements for the consumer, they should do something about her rather than just look at all the money she makes for them.

Personally, I see nothing changing, even though Brent may think so (based on what E-Bay told him), with E-Bay's current way of doing business.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WARREN-SPAHN...8AAOSwARZXnBtf