E121 Ruth getting respect

[Sean]

Can someone who knows more about this set explain why some cards say Babe Ruth and others say "Babe" Ruth? Are they considered different cards, or a variation?


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[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by Sean

Can someone who knows more about this set explain why some cards say Babe Ruth and others say "Babe" Ruth? Are they considered different cards, or a variation?


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Its a variation. There are Babe, "Babe", and George. Know many others here know more as to why. Think George is most scarce.

There are also, I believe 4 back variations in the series of 80, all of varying scarcity. If others don't do so first, I'll post a link to that thread. Some board members have done a lot of research on this set.

[brianp-beme]

On the board (and maybe the entire planet that we call Earth) Rhett has the best grasp of all the E121 issues, but the Series of 80 is rife with many variations, and I assume the parenthesis and non-parenthesis Ruth versions were due to their being in separate printing runs. However I do not remember reading any specific theories concerning this.

Brian

[Sean]

I notice that all the links to recent eBay sales are for cards that say "Babe". I assume then that this is the most common version?

And thanks guys for the previous answers.

[itjclarke]

Here are some threads, both recent and old, with contributions from the mentioned boardmember (Rhett), and others

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ight=E121+back

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ack+variations

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ack+variations

[Sean]

Great information, thank you.

[Steve D]

If I remember correctly, the difference in caption is not a true variation. For example, all E121 Ruth pitching poses show his name as Babe Ruth, and all E121 Ruth holding ball cards show his name as "Babe" Ruth.

Also, all pitching poses have a series of eighty back, and all holding ball poses have a series of 120 back.


Steve

[ullmandds]

should be interesting to see where this presentable "beater" ends up.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/172318997725...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[glchen]

Originally Posted by Steve D

If I remember correctly, the difference in caption is not a true variation. For example, all E121 Ruth pitching poses show his name as Babe Ruth, and all E121 Ruth holding ball cards show his name as "Babe" Ruth.

Also, all pitching poses have a series of eighty back, and all holding ball poses have a series of 120 back.


Steve

Actually, for the 1921 E121 pitching pose, the difference in the name in the caption is a true variation. There are three ways the name is displayed:

Babe Ruth (w/o quotes)
"Babe" Ruth (w/ quotes)
George Ruth

For the 1922 E121 cards (holding ball, bird, montage), I have only seen the "Babe" Ruth (w/ quotes) as the caption even though PSA shows other variations in the pop report.

For the 1922 W575-1 pitching pose, there are also three ways the caption is displayed, same as the 1921 E121 version.