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Old 08-19-2016, 01:40 PM
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Hi Dave I did not know this information. All the "Sport Americana Price Guide #4" says is "the backs are printed in a variety of colors (pink, yellow, brown etc.)

At one time I did not even know what the yellow backs were I have a pretty good pile of these, most are the (gray/pink).

They must be "late" '64 because some of the cards mention 1965 events/models?

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Larry-you have the 1964 (gray/pink) and 1968 Hot Rods (white/pink) both showing in case you didn't notice.
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Old 08-19-2016, 08:15 PM
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I know this isn't a non-sport board, but I do want to correct the above. There were 4 hot rod sets issued, according to the Wrapper, a non sport newsletter I used to get. The 1964 hot rods were pink on gray stock, 66 cards. They were repeated in 1966 or so, with 44 cards that were pink on white stock. A third series was 1967 with orange backs, I don't have any but I have seen them. Finally, the 22 cards that came with the 1968 MB set were all yellow backs.

The backs of the 68 hot rod cards are very relevant to the 68 MB baseball cards. All yellow back hot rod cards are MB cards, period. I have about 500 total hot rod cards, and I would guess that 300 are the darker yellow (think French's mustard) and 200 are lighter yellow (lemon yellow). You can see that in some of the cards posted above. The same 60/40 percentage holds of course for the football and baseball cards as you would expect since The FB cards are also very obvious, since the regular 68 FB stock is more orange than the 68 BB stock in the first 2 series.

PSA has gotten stuck on the lighter yellow vs the darker yellow cards, to an extent. They have begun grading the darker yellow again.
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I know this isn't a non-sport board, but I do want to correct the above. There were 4 hot rod sets issued, according to the Wrapper, a non sport newsletter I used to get. The 1964 hot rods were pink on gray stock, 66 cards. They were repeated in 1966 or so, with 44 cards that were pink on white stock. A third series was 1967 with orange backs, I don't have any but I have seen them. Finally, the 22 cards that came with the 1968 MB set were all yellow backs.
Thanks for the reply Carlton but it looks like there might have been at least one additional hot rod set issued "pink on cream stock"? All of my "pink on white" or "pink on cream" cards are numbered 44 and below with the exception of this "pink on cream" numbered #61?

After further review:
1964 Topps Hot-Rods "pink on gray" numbered 1-66
1966-1970 (?) Topps Hot-Rods re-issued "pink on white" or "pink on cream" 44 cards issued and skip numbered
1968 Topps Hot-Rods (Milton Bradley) "yellow on cream" 22 cards and skip-numbered
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Old 08-20-2016, 08:43 AM
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I think (could be mistaken) that the pink on cream and pink on white are the same series. I can't find the Wrapper Issue #117 that documented this. The numbers in that second HR set are 1-33 plus 11 more skip numbered.

In the pink on white/cream I have all #1-33 except for #29.

I have #36, 38, 41, 43, 50, 58, 60, 61, 63--that's 9 of the 11 that would be in the production row.

Looks like I have 3 to go.
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I think (could be mistaken) that the pink on cream and pink on white are the same series. I can't find the Wrapper Issue #117 that documented this. The numbers in that second HR set are 1-33 plus 11 more skip numbered.

In the pink on white/cream I have all #1-33 except for #29.

I have #36, 38, 41, 43, 50, 58, 60, 61, 63--that's 9 of the 11 that would be in the production row.

Looks like I have 3 to go.
Pink/cream and pink/white should be the same issue, just different stock. For some reason Topps often had a brilliant white stock they used for some runs that never fades and others used less stable stock that fades a little over time.
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When in doubt about MB's just ask BobbiW. I think he's a member here.
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I have that Wrapper issue. The article was by Ron Wilson:

Pink/gray is the only back all 66 cards appear with

Pin/white and Pink/tan=44 cards. As noted above I believe these are the same issue.

His information on Win A Card is inaccurate, he's short cards in his counts and states there were two games, one in 1969, one in 1970.

Email me at dsh46 at aol dot com for a scan of the article.

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