Begsu1013 A good man

[MULLINS5]

Originally Posted by TNP777

As a former CBT member and someone who had the keys to the place for a short time, I may as well chime in.

First, let me 100% emphatically got on the record with this: calling someone at work or home over disagreements or personality conflicts on a message board is 100% a scumbag move. I for one would never consider doing that to someone. I spoke with Bobby about this exact thing, and he and I are good on that. I said this to Bobby privately, and Patrick, I will say this to you publicly: I am sorry you had to endure that. It's not funny, it's not cool, it's disgusting.

Now for CBT. Briefly, it was made up almost exclusively of people who wanted and were allowed the freedom to speak their minds, colorful real-world language and all. Some were banned CU members, but hardly most. Several more had at one time or another been banned/suspended, but had been allowed back on the site. I was one of those (because of things I said to/about BBG). People and topics were discussed just like they are in the real world, and the discussion wasn't always flattering.

I'll leave it at that. CBT was there, and now it's not - that's probably a good thing. It served a purpose for a time, and it was an outlet to speak freely about a wide range of topics. The vast majority of those topics were benign, but obviously some weren't.

I specifically remember a thread where yankeeno7 took a photo from Bobby's facebook page, edited it, and posted it for laughs. If my memory is correct you went to his page, too, and commented on an old mullet picture. It was in that same thread that Bobby's workplace was revealed and shortly after that someone supposedly called Bobby's workplace.

Topics on that site were not discussed like they are in the real world (at least I certainly hope not). As a mod you let way too much go and that speaks to your character. At least Leon put his foot down on the cat picture, but you couldn't do the same on so many posts, especially ones where mentally challenged people were mocked.

[TNP777]

Originally Posted by MULLINS5

I specifically remember a thread where yankeeno7 took a photo from Bobby's facebook page, edited it, and posted it for laughs. If my memory is correct you went to his page, too, and commented on an old mullet picture. It was in that same thread that Bobby's workplace was revealed and shortly after that someone supposedly called Bobby's workplace.

Topics on that site were not discussed like they are in the real world (at least I certainly hope not). As a mod you let way too much go and that speaks to your character. At least Leon put his foot down on the cat picture, but you couldn't do the same on so many posts, especially ones where mentally challenged people were mocked.

Patrick, I did go to Bobby's page, which as of this moment is still absolutely public and accessible by people he is not 'friends' with. Pictures, timeline, etc. He has been told this before. As for his workplace being talked about, that was also in his public profile so it was discussed. I don't know who called Bobby at work, zero clue at all, but it 100% stinks that it happened.

Did I comment on Bobby's mullet? I'm sure I did. Not gonna lie, mullets are funny. A great many hairstyles (when I had hair) and clothes I used to wear when I was younger are pretty funny, too. I remember when I was in the Air Force I had bangs that I'd grown down below my chin. Used to plaster the hair around the side of my head so I would be within regulations. I would expect to get some laughter thrown my way if I was to throw some of those pictures up. I look at them myself and wonder "what the heck was I thinking???"

eta: the mullet picture's still there, too. As mullets go, it's way better than most!

Topics on that site were absolutely a reflection of the world we live in. We even had a politics/religion subforum. There were a great many very heated disagreements between CBT members, and a great many other people and topics were discussed and comments were sometimes unflattering - just like the real world. Yes, in a perfect world people would get along and not have differences. People would be building each other up rather than tearing them down. But that's not the world we live in.

I'm not aware of the mentally challenged being mocked, but if you say it happened then I suppose it did. Moderation there was light for the most part, so on occasion there were things, pictures and topics being discussed that some would not find to their liking. Eta: there were also LOTS more topics and threads that were not the cesspool that Bobby describes.

[ALR-bishop]

I forget , what is this thread about ?

[MULLINS5]

Originally Posted by TNP777

Patrick, I did go to Bobby's page, which as of this moment is still absolutely public and accessible by people he is not 'friends' with. Pictures, timeline, etc. He has been told this before. As for his workplace being talked about, that was also in his public profile so it was discussed. I don't know who called Bobby at work, zero clue at all, but it 100% stinks that it happened.

Did I comment on Bobby's mullet? I'm sure I did. Not gonna lie, mullets are funny. A great many hairstyles (when I had hair) and clothes I used to wear when I was younger are pretty funny, too. I remember when I was in the Air Force I had bangs that I'd grown down below my chin. Used to plaster the hair around the side of my head so I would be within regulations. I would expect to get some laughter thrown my way if I was to throw some of those pictures up. I look at them myself and wonder "what the heck was I thinking???"

Topics on that site were absolutely a reflection of the world we live in. We even had a politics/religion subforum. There were a great many very heated disagreements between CBT members, and a great many other people and topics were discussed, and comments were sometimes unflattering - just like the real world. Yes, in a perfect world people would get along and not have differences. People would be building each other up rather than tearing them down. But that's not the world we live in.

I'm not aware of the mentally challenged being mocked, but if you say it happened, then it probably did. Moderation there was light for the most part, so things, pictures and topics were discussed that some would not find to their liking.

You were an active member of a site which advocated tearing people down and causing mischief on other forums, such as CU. You simply cannot say that site was a place for real world discussions. Jokes about the gay community, the mentally handicap, suicide - ALL directed at collectors on other forums was downright unacceptable.

[TNP777]

Patrick, I'm sorry you are and were offended. I sincerely am. People said things there that weren't very nice (and downright ignorant) sometimes. People used to say those things on CU, but that was done away with, so they went to CBT. I certainly didn't start the site, but yes, I was an active member there. Frustration and anger that wasn't allowed to be expressed on CU was vented in a place where it was allowed. That wasn't your cup of tea, and I understand and accept that.

Mocking people because of their sexual orientation, religion, race, handicap, etc is never okay, but some did it. Some do it in the real world, too, although as we evolve as a society it's thankfully becoming more and more unacceptable to do so. I used to say and believe some horrible things when I was younger and immature and ignorant. My goal now is to not say (or even think) those things, both in my corner of the world and online.

[yankeeno7]

Originally Posted by MULLINS5

I specifically remember a thread where yankeeno7 took a photo from Bobby's facebook page, edited it, and posted it for laughs. If my memory is correct you went to his page, too, and commented on an old mullet picture. It was in that same thread that Bobby's workplace was revealed and shortly after that someone supposedly called Bobby's workplace.

Topics on that site were not discussed like they are in the real world (at least I certainly hope not). As a mod you let way too much go and that speaks to your character. At least Leon put his foot down on the cat picture, but you couldn't do the same on so many posts, especially ones where mentally challenged people were mocked.

Ok, here is my side....

Did I draw on Bobby's pic and post it? I admit, yes I did. Was it childish? Yes, it was. In fact, if memory serves me correctly, I did take it down SOON after I posted it. I did the "paint" on his pic to actually make him unrecognizable but again, if my memory serves me correctly, it was AFTER someone posted his public FB pic. I realized it was not so appropriate even though I made him unrecognizable and took the pic down.

But know this - I would absolutely NEVER call a person's work or home to make their real life difficult. That's just not me. And I would be happy to provide Leon all of my phone records from the said time to prove that I did not. I say Leon because he is an impartial party and this is his board and someone everyone here would trust.

Yes, I have had my hashes with Bobby. No need for me to get into those things. And no need to get into the story of why this all happened and what happened afterwards. If you are really that interested in knowing, feel free to PM me but I will not make this a public circus.

Also, Patrick, you are wrong about something else. I NEVER posted on Bobby's facebook.

Patrick, I do not understand why you are telling Bobby's story. If he wants to make it public that is fine with me. I thought you were telling your own story. But it's fine. I have no problem admitting what I have done whether it be good, bad, or indifferent.

Also, I think it is important people should know that I did not go on Facebook to search out Bobby. I could have cared less. We both belonged to a PSA collector's page. I saw the name and went to CBT to ask if that was really him.

Bobby, if you want a public apology here it is....I am sorry that I was childish and drew on your pic. I meant no harm by it. It was a goofy thing to do and I did make it so it could not recognize who you were and I did take it down soon after. Please know that I would never call your work or home. I am not a stylish person but that for sure is not my style.

[MULLINS5]

Originally Posted by yankeeno7

Ok, here is my side....

Did I draw on Bobby's pic and post it? I admit, yes I did. Was it childish? Yes, it was. In fact, if memory serves me correctly, I did take it down SOON after I posted it. I did the "paint" on his pic to actually make him unrecognizable but again, if my memory serves me correctly, it was AFTER someone posted his public FB pic. I realized it was not so appropriate even though I made him unrecognizable and took the pic down.

But know this - I would absolutely NEVER call a person's work or home to make their real life difficult. That's just not me. And I would be happy to provide Leon all of my phone records from the said time to prove that I did not. I say Leon because he is an impartial party and this is his board and someone everyone here would trust.

Yes, I have had my hashes with Bobby. No need for me to get into those things. And no need to get into the story of why this all happened and what happened afterwards. If you are really that interested in knowing, feel free to PM me but I will not make this a public circus.

Also, Patrick, you are wrong about something else. I NEVER posted on Bobby's facebook.

Patrick, I do not understand why you are telling Bobby's story. If he wants to make it public that is fine with me. I thought you were telling your own story. But it's fine. I have no problem admitting what I have done whether it be good, bad, or indifferent.

Also, I think it is important people should know that I did not go on Facebook to search out Bobby. I could have cared less. We both belonged to a PSA collector's page. I saw the name and went to CBT to ask if that was really him.

Bobby, if you want a public apology here it is....I am sorry that I was childish and drew on your pic. I meant no harm by it. It was a goofy thing to do and I did make it so it could not recognize who you were and I did take it down soon after. Please know that I would never call your work or home. I am not a stylish person but that for sure is not my style.

Never said you posted on his Facebook.

Doesn't seem like the paint was to make him unrecognizable (I edited out the pic).

[MULLINS5]

Or how about when you encouraged members to go to my 1989 Hockey thread and praise me so that I would spend more money on the project? Who does that to a fellow collector?

[yankeeno7]

Originally Posted by MULLINS5

Or how about when you encouraged members to go to my 1989 Hockey thread and praise me so that I would spend more money on the project? Who does that to a fellow collector?

Yes, I admit that I went with the crowd regardless if it was tasteful or tasteless. I wont deny anything.

But I think if you want to post screenshots of dirty laundry, I think it would only be fair that you PM me who gave you those. Im not mad at them but I would like to know.

And if I hurt your feelings, PM me about it.
Im not sure why you are singling me out. We have never even shared PMs here or on CU. You are acting like Im the only bad guy.

People do talk whether it be on public forums, private forums, PMs, on the phone, what ever. Sometimes the discussions are not favorable to certain people. I saw something I thought ridiculous and I commented on something ridiculous. Opinions are like....well, you know the saying.

People have made fun of me collecting cards for years. Im sure not going to let it bother me. And if it bothers you that someone laughs at what you collect, then I will publicly apologize to you as well....Im sorry.

[begsu1013]

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excuse me ladies....

this thread was supposed to be about me and how big of an @sshole ** I ** am!

you gals need to quit stealing my thunder.

[MULLINS5]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

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excuse me ladies....

this thread was supposed to be about me and how big of an @sshole ** I ** am!

you gals need to quit stealing my thunder.

Sorry Bob.

The only reason I visited this thread is because it was brought to my attention that Dan Bessette (DBesse27) has been saying here on net54 that there are rumors I called Bobby's place of work. I don't believe it for one bit that these rumors are legit, I think he and his CU buddies are just trying to stir the pot here like they have over on CU.

After work and spending time with my son I only get a couple hours a week to devote to my collecting. I don't have time to deal with their childish, amateurish, and downright vindictive behavior - and I'm pretty sick of it.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

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excuse me ladies....

this thread was supposed to be about me and how big of an @sshole ** I ** am!

you gals need to quit stealing my thunder.

To keep you in the discussion in this post, what is up with deleting so many of your posts?

[MULLINS5]

Originally Posted by yankeeno7

People have made fun of me collecting cards for years. Im sure not going to let it bother me. And if it bothers you that someone laughs at what you collect, then I will publicly apologize to you as well....Im sorry.

This isn't a matter of making fun of someone who collects cards, we all have experienced this and it's usually all in good fun, ie: wife not understanding our cardboard passion, but what you all did is one of the most disrespectful things I've encountered in my life.

For those who may not know, I started a project of building a 1989 Topps Hockey set, goal all PSA 10 and all cards pulled from packs. These guys encouraged others to praise the progress of the set on CU in an effort to keep me motivated and "waste more money" on the project. - so all along I'm thinking, wow these guys actually find this as interesting as I do, but in reality they were making fun of it and enjoying the amount of money "wasted"

Unless someone posts something that needs to be addressed I'm not posting anymore to this thread. Happy collecting.

[Bliggity]