BVG to SGC crossover

[DeanH3]

Beauty of a card. If there are no hidden surface wrinkles, I can see that in an SGC 70 holder. Again, wonderful card. It's a keeper regardless of grade. Good luck.

[RayBShotz]

That tiny little crease in the upper left corner might put this in an SGC50 holder without a minimum grade.
Otherwise it has great eye appeal. Let's hope they ignore what I've point out. Besides that it could easily be a 60 or a 70.
Best of Luck with the cross.
RayB

Please post the grade when you get it back.

[dio]

Thanks guys. I'll let you guys know how it turns out . just shipped it out today.

[orly57]

Sgc is about 45 minutes from where I live. I have crossed over quite a few (around 20) cards from BVG to SGC. My stats are something like this:

50% were a half grade reduction
20% were a full grade reduction (or more)
20% didnt meet the min grade
10% were deemed trimmed

Not ONE card crossed over with the same grade. When the grader sees its in a bvg holder he goes into it ready to attack the card and prove how much tougher sgc is than bvg. My 1955 Topps All Anerican Thorpe that once sat in a BVG 8 holder currently resides in an SGC 86. But this is the one that hurts the worst...it WAS in a bvg 7:

[Johnny630]

That's a really nice 54 Mantle!

[KCRfan1]

Orly,

Are you still crossing over to SGC from other graders?

[orly57]

No Lou. I just dont like BVG. I am ocd (as most of us around here are) and i just cant stand to see my cards in bvg holders.

[dio]

Just a quick update. I just heard from SGC yesterday, he told me , the grader without cracking it, can only give it a 5 minimum as base. He said it's possible to get a higher grade if they crack it out. So they're giving me the choice to accept a minimum grade of 5 to see if i want to crack it out and do a real grading on the card.

Now i think the problem with the crossover service is not that the grading company is on attack mode on the card that's in the holder , but they do not want to risk cracking it out and found out to force to give the card a lower grade it doesn't deserve. PSA is even more careful on cards especially gai/gem those company because of the reputation of slapping trim/altered cards.

I'll accept the minimum 5 and hope for the best.

[toledo_mudhen]

Originally Posted by orly57

Sgc is about 45 minutes from where I live. I have crossed over quite a few (around 20) cards from BVG to SGC. My stats are something like this:

50% were a half grade reduction
20% were a full grade reduction (or more)
20% didnt meet the min grade
10% were deemed trimmed

Not ONE card crossed over with the same grade. When the grader sees its in a bvg holder he goes into it ready to attack the card and prove how much tougher sgc is than bvg. My 1955 Topps All Anerican Thorpe that once sat in a BVG 8 holder currently resides in an SGC 86. But this is the one that hurts the worst...it WAS in a bvg 7:

FWIW - I have NEVER had a Beckett 7 cross over to an SGC 84 (or better). Probably talking about 25-30 attempts. I have stopped buying anything in a Beckett Slab.

[orly57]

Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen

FWIW - I have NEVER had a Beckett 7 cross over to an SGC 84 (or better). Probably talking about 25-30 attempts. I have stopped buying anything in a Beckett Slab.

Me neither. I think you misread. My Thorpe was in a BVG 8 holder and was kocked a full grade down to an sgc 84 (7). It was my 54 bowman mantle that went from a bvg 7 to an sgc 5.5. I dont buy anything in a bvg holder anymore. And I agree with the last poster: you are better off cracking and submitting than sending a crossover. No company will give you a higher grade and risk appearing more lenient. Hell, you would be lucky if they kept the existing grade.

[toledo_mudhen]

Anecdotal for sure but I have had 1 PSA 8 Cross to a SGC 92 and that has been recently (about 2 months back). I left it slabbed and asked for an 88 Minimum. So there is that.