PWCC Plank currently on eBay PSA 2

Joshchisox08 · #1 09-04-2016, 03:20 PM

That is a very gracious 2 handed out by PSA there. Perhaps it didn't get a 1 because it's a Plank.

Any other card that would NEVER get a 2.

Topps206 · #2 09-04-2016, 03:27 PM

It might go for less because of that, but I know if I had the cash I'd put the bid in.

iwantitiwinit · #3 09-04-2016, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

That is a very gracious 2 handed out by PSA there. Perhaps it didn't get a 1 because it's a Plank.

Any other card that would NEVER get a 2.

Totally agree there.

Bored5000 · #4 09-04-2016, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

That is a very gracious 2 handed out by PSA there. Perhaps it didn't get a 1 because it's a Plank.

Any other card that would NEVER get a 2.

I was kinda surprised to see one of the 1915 Matty Cracker Jacks currently at auction with PWCC get a "2MK." Yes, it does it have an "MK" designation, but in addition to the writing on the card, there is a huge crase that runs the entire width of the card. I think a "2" was pretty generous on this Matty.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351822309677...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

MVSNYC · #5 09-04-2016, 06:44 PM

What was the intention of the OP mentioning this card? Thought it was against rules talking about a card that is in a current auction.

Topps206 · #6 09-04-2016, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MVSNYC

What was the intention of the OP mentioning this card? Thought it was against rules talking about a card that is in a current auction.

If there is a rule, I'm not aware. It was merely to point out the availability of a rare and valuable card.

FourStrikes · #7 09-04-2016, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MVSNYC

What was the intention of the OP mentioning this card? Thought it was against rules talking about a card that is in a current auction.

in a gentleman's agreement way, YES...it's basically to keep sh!t that MAY fly under the radar unseen, but...I'm guessing a T206 Plank on ebay - where there's bajillions of peeps w/T206 searches - it ain't exactly a secret...

while "outing" an auction is frowned upon, there's NO absolute rule that I'm aware of on Net54...unwritten rule ??? perhaps, but while discouraged/considered taboo, there's nothing concrete that I know of - and YES, while I've personally been scolded/motherf**ked in the past for such a transgression, I've voluntarily elected to avoid any backlash/bullsh!t and NOT post such things, yet NOT because it was expressly forbidden...

p.s. - it's a freakin' T206 Plank - those lookin' are unlikely to miss/overlook a T206 Plank...

JMO.

DS

Topps206 · #8 09-04-2016, 07:27 PM

I've only seen a Plank once before.

irv · #9 09-04-2016, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

What was the intention of the OP mentioning this card? Thought it was against rules talking about a card that is in a current auction.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourStrikes

in a gentleman's agreement way, YES...it's basically to keep sh!t that MAY fly under the radar unseen, but...I'm guessing a T206 Plank on ebay - where there's bajillions of peeps w/T206 searches - it ain't exactly a secret...

while "outing" an auction is frowned upon, there's NO absolute rule that I'm aware of on Net54...unwritten rule ??? perhaps, but while discouraged/considered taboo, there's nothing concrete that I know of - and YES, while I've personally been scolded/motherf**ked in the past for such a transgression, I've voluntarily elected to avoid any backlash/bullsh!t and NOT post such things, yet NOT because it was expressly forbidden...

p.s. - it's a freakin' T206 Plank - those lookin' are unlikely to miss/overlook a T206 Plank...

JMO.

DS

I could be mistaken, but I believe those rules apply to our own BST sections, not E-Bay listings?

When members here post in BST, these discussions are not suppose to take place other than PM's.

From what I gather, E-Bay is fair game to discuss issues such as these.

pokerplyr80 · #10 09-04-2016, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by irv

I could be mistaken, but I believe those rules apply to our own BST sections, not E-Bay listings?

When members here post in BST, these discussions are not suppose to take place other than PM's.

From what I gather, E-Bay is fair game to discuss issues such as these.

Thats a whole different issue Irv. We should not be spamming BST listings with opinions or discussions, unless it's to ask a question about the card, or perhaps just to say nice card. I even saw a guy make an offer on one of Peter's listings right in the thread. Proper etiquette would be to PM an offer less than list price.

swarmee · #11 09-04-2016, 07:39 PM

Paraphrasing the Bible: I try not to point out specks in another's eye, lest I have a Plank in my own.

FourStrikes · #12 09-04-2016, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by swarmee

Paraphrasing the Bible: I try not to point out specks in another's eye, lest I have a Plank in my own.

well-played, sir...

1952boyntoncollector · #13 09-05-2016, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourStrikes

in a gentleman's agreement way, YES...it's basically to keep sh!t that MAY fly under the radar unseen, but...I'm guessing a T206 Plank on ebay - where there's bajillions of peeps w/T206 searches - it ain't exactly a secret...

while "outing" an auction is frowned upon, there's NO absolute rule that I'm aware of on Net54...unwritten rule ??? perhaps, but while discouraged/considered taboo, there's nothing concrete that I know of - and YES, while I've personally been scolded/motherf**ked in the past for such a transgression, I've voluntarily elected to avoid any backlash/bullsh!t and NOT post such things, yet NOT because it was expressly forbidden...

p.s. - it's a freakin' T206 Plank - those lookin' are unlikely to miss/overlook a T206 Plank...

JMO.

DS

already had this long discussion when i 'outed' a psa 5 Mantle Topps 1952 on ebay or something like that...its pretty much agreed that for these types of cards its no big deal to out these..

1952boyntoncollector · #14 09-05-2016, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourStrikes

in a gentleman's agreement way, YES...it's basically to keep sh!t that MAY fly under the radar unseen, but...I'm guessing a T206 Plank on ebay - where there's bajillions of peeps w/T206 searches - it ain't exactly a secret...

while "outing" an auction is frowned upon, there's NO absolute rule that I'm aware of on Net54...unwritten rule ??? perhaps, but while discouraged/considered taboo, there's nothing concrete that I know of - and YES, while I've personally been scolded/motherf**ked in the past for such a transgression, I've voluntarily elected to avoid any backlash/bullsh!t and NOT post such things, yet NOT because it was expressly forbidden...

p.s. - it's a freakin' T206 Plank - those lookin' are unlikely to miss/overlook a T206 Plank...

JMO.

DS

already had this long discussion when i 'outed' a psa 5 Mantle Topps 1952 on ebay or something like that..and i had the standard posters criticize me on that .its pretty much agreed that for these types of cards its no big deal to out these..

Rookiemonster · #15 09-05-2016, 10:57 PM

The paper loss on the right boarder looks like whiteout.
I really don't get how this is a two . I'm not sure if the price changes much from a one or a two I feel like a authentic slab would be just as good . You know this is excaly what the issue with graded cards is. It's one point but it's a completely what everyone was saying with the 1953 topps mays psa 10 . That card was given a 10 just because it is a condition sensitive set .

jchcollins · #16 09-07-2016, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rookiemonster

You know this is excaly what the issue with graded cards is.

Agreed. Funny how we continue to see regular grading discrepancies like this even with big name cards. Although the birth of grading with PSA and Bill Mastro's trimmed Wagner ushered in the initial controversy more than 25 years ago. PSA in particular seems to be wildly inconsistent on how they change standards over time. At the end of the day I suppose it just goes to show that excellence (or NM or VG or G or P...) is in the eye of the beholder, even among professional graders. I'll stick with how I learned to grade from hobby publications in the 1980's. I don't at all get how a card with paper loss like that (or whiteout or whatever it is...) would be a 2; any other T-206 common like that probably would have been a 1 all day long.

RedsFan1941 · #17 09-07-2016, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

That is a very gracious 2 handed out by PSA there. Perhaps it didn't get a 1 because it's a Plank.

Any other card that would NEVER get a 2.

I wondered about this but wanted to wait until the aucion was over until I asked a question. Did anyone see this LaJoie and wander how a card with staple holes could not be graded a 1?

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515

Topps206 · #18 09-07-2016, 09:55 AM

I guess I need to save up for many years and then cash in when the time is right.

jchcollins · #19 09-07-2016, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

I wondered about this but wanted to wait until the aucion was over until I asked a question. Did anyone see this LaJoie and wander how a card with staple holes could not be graded a 1?

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515

If I'm remembering correctly, that's how Goudey mailed out the Lajoie cards to collectors that requested them by mail in 1934 and later (stapled to the letter), so all that were sent that way supposedly have the staple holes. I would not agree that makes them anything more than PSA 1's at most either, but I'm sure that if a justification for a higher grade was ever needed, that's probably what it was.

ullmandds · #20 09-07-2016, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jchcollins

If I'm remembering correctly, that's how Goudey mailed out the Lajoie cards to collectors that requested them by mail in 1934 and later (stapled to the letter), so all that were sent that way supposedly have the staple holes. I would not agree that makes them anything more than PSA 1's at most either, but I'm sure that if a justification for a higher grade was ever needed, that's probably what it was.

the story I've always heard was mailing goudey was the only way to acquire this card...it seems that there are many high grade lajoies. I have never heard that these cards were stapled?

RedsFan1941 · #21 09-07-2016, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jchcollins

If I'm remembering correctly, that's how Goudey mailed out the Lajoie cards to collectors that requested them by mail in 1934 and later (stapled to the letter), so all that were sent that way supposedly have the staple holes. I would not agree that makes them anything more than PSA 1's at most either, but I'm sure that if a justification for a higher grade was ever needed, that's probably what it was.

I have see far more goudey LaJoies with no staple holes than ones with them, fwiw.

ullmandds · #22 09-07-2016, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

I have see far more goudey LaJoies with no staple holes than ones with them, fwiw.

agree

CW · #23 09-07-2016, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchcollins

If I'm remembering correctly, that's how Goudey mailed out the Lajoie cards to collectors that requested them by mail in 1934 and later (stapled to the letter), so all that were sent that way supposedly have the staple holes. I would not agree that makes them anything more than PSA 1's at most either, but I'm sure that if a justification for a higher grade was ever needed, that's probably what it was.

Nope, that's incorrect.

What you are thinking of is the belief that many of the Lajoie cards were sent to collectors paperclipped to a letter, so many of the '33 Goudey Lajoie cards will exhibit a paperclip indentation.

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