Ode to Pre-War Football Cardboard

[cfhofer]

Picked up a nice group of 1886 Yale football cabinet photos. I've never seen the second photo before.

[buchner]

see you got the seller to end early. I was concerned with the top photo because Geo. Watkinson's head from Yale's 1885 team photo is superimposed over Hefflefinger's head (highest one in back row, head much larger than the others). Is it cut into the photo or copied that way? The second photo might be 1885 but its missing many of the top players except Gill and it looks like captain Peters? Anyway, nice photos.

[cfhofer]

Good call..the second photo is from 1885. Stagg is to the left of Peters (captain) and Woodruff is to the right of Gill.

Yes, George Watkinson died from fatigue/malaria immediately after playing the 1886 Yale-Princeton game. Since he was a starter and key player it looks like Pach Bros took his 1885 photo, reversed it and glued it over another player. It was professionally done and was likely a tribute to Watkinson.

[buchner]

Thanks for the information. Wonder why they didn't use a sub instead of Heffelfinger ? Also on the 1885 photo looks like Corwin setting on the end of the fence on the right. Looks like the photo could have been taken after practice.

[cfhofer]

They did use a sub. I think it was William P Graves. Pudge Heffelfinger was not on the 1886 team. He played for Yale from 1888-91.

Here is a cropped pic of an unaltered photo.

[jefferyepayne]

Great snag, Mark! Were these on ebay? Didn't see them. What was the title?

Which player is Camp in the second photo? You said left of the captain. His left or our left? Standing or sitting? I don't see him.

jeff

[cfhofer]

Thanks Jeff. Camp isn't in either photo. Stagg is to the left of the captain (looking to the right) in the second photo.

It was listed for less than 24 hours. There was an error in the listing so she ended it :-)