Hall of Fame Announces "Old Timers" Ballot

Eric72 · #1 11-09-2016, 08:17 AM

Personally, I hope McGwire makes it into the HOF. I know there are those who would keep him out because of PEDs, and I respect that. However, he helped to bring baseball back during the late 1990s and did so in dramatic fashion.

I realize there was an entire generation of players that (more often than not) broke the rules. I'm just not as willing to keep all of them out of the hall as others.

packs · #2 11-09-2016, 10:34 AM

McGwire was not a great player. He had great seasons while he was cheating. He had no discernible natural level of talent to look at (like say Bonds did) because he is known to have cheated basically since he entered the league. He is not a HOFer.

clydepepper · #3 11-09-2016, 11:05 AM

McGwire hit 49 homers as a rookie and I believe those were legit.

He had a great swing, but not the 16-inch forearms that were such red flag later on.

He was, however, very much a 'one-trick pony' as apposed to a five-tool player and the obvious years where he did cheat constitute the only portion of his career that compares favorably to that first year.
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packs · #4 11-09-2016, 11:15 AM

Well let's not forget who was on that team his first season: Jose Canseco.

rats60 · #5 11-09-2016, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by clydepepper

McGwire hit 49 homers as a rookie and I believe those were legit.

He had a great swing, but not the 16-inch forearms that were such red flag later on.

He was, however, very much a 'one-trick pony' as apposed to a five-tool player and the obvious years where he did cheat constitute the only portion of his career that compares favorably to that first year.
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I believe McGwire was on steroids when he was at USC when he led the nation and set the school record with 32 HR his last year there. 49 HRs as a rookie was as much out of place as his 70 HRs in 1998. Unlike Bonds who was skinny with the Pirates, McGwire was always big.

Leon · #6 11-15-2016, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rats60

I believe McGwire was on steroids when he was at USC when he led the nation and set the school record with 32 HR his last year there. 49 HRs as a rookie was as much out of place as his 70 HRs in 1998. Unlike Bonds who was skinny with the Pirates, McGwire was always big.

There will always be asterisks around certain records.

esd10 · #7 11-16-2016, 09:15 AM

Most of these players and executives have no place in the hof let alone on the ballot where the immortals of Americas past time are inshrined.

packs · #8 11-16-2016, 10:03 AM

I still don't understand how the HOF could put someone like Yawkey in and then Steinbrenner is met with criticism of his personality.

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