SGC crossover to PSA success

bnorth · #1 11-14-2016, 08:33 PM

It really depends on the individual card. They grade cards differently.

swarmee · #2 11-14-2016, 08:53 PM

I just sent in a crossover submission to PSA and had the following results:
1976 OPC Ken Singleton was SGC 98 (Gem Mint), did not get my required PSA 10.
1975 Topps Mini Gary Carter RC was BVG 6.5, now PSA 6 (would have taken 5.5 or above).
1959 Topps Don Drysdale was BVG 6, requested PSA 5.5, did not meet 5.5 grade.
1970 Topps Nolan Ryan was BVG 4.5, requested PSA 4, did not meet PSA 4.
1963 Topps Mickey Mantle was BVG 4.5, requested PSA 4, got a PSA 4.5
1984 Topps Don Mattingly RC was GAI 9, requested PSA 8.5, got a PSA 9.
1909 T51 Tufts University was SGC 5, requested PSA 4.5, got a PSA 5.
1909 T51 Dickinson College 2nd Ed was SGC 4.5, requested a 4, got PSA 4.5.
1972 Topps Archie Manning RC was SGC 7, requested PSA 6.5, got a PSA 7.

These were all done in holders. I will probably not crack out the ones that didn't cross, just keep them in the holders they came in.

Leon · #3 11-15-2016, 08:05 AM

Thanks for sharing the info. My guess is that if you sent that exact same submission back to PSA, as if it was never sent in, there would be several different outcomes. Grading is a crap shoot imo.....

It is always best to know the attributes of card series yourself. The graders don't know some of our pre-war cards as well as we do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarmee

I just sent in a crossover submission to PSA and had the following results:
1976 OPC Ken Singleton was SGC 98 (Gem Mint), did not get my required PSA 10.
1975 Topps Mini Gary Carter RC was BVG 6.5, now PSA 6 (would have taken 5.5 or above).
1959 Topps Don Drysdale was BVG 6, requested PSA 5.5, did not meet 5.5 grade.
1970 Topps Nolan Ryan was BVG 4.5, requested PSA 4, did not meet PSA 4.
1963 Topps Mickey Mantle was BVG 4.5, requested PSA 4, got a PSA 4.5
1984 Topps Don Mattingly RC was GAI 9, requested PSA 8.5, got a PSA 9.
1909 T51 Tufts University was SGC 5, requested PSA 4.5, got a PSA 5.
1909 T51 Dickinson College 2nd Ed was SGC 4.5, requested a 4, got PSA 4.5.
1972 Topps Archie Manning RC was SGC 7, requested PSA 6.5, got a PSA 7.

These were all done in holders. I will probably not crack out the ones that didn't cross, just keep them in the holders they came in.

steve B · #4 11-15-2016, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth

It really depends on the individual card. They grade cards differently.

That's pretty much it.

I don't think either company has stricter standards, but they do put more emphasis on different things. PSA sometimes seems to ignore paper loss especially if it's minor or doesn't affect the image. Like a bit on the back of a T206 that doesn't remove any of the design. SGC seems to penalize any paper loss more. On the other hand, PSA seems pretty strict on centering, while SGC is less so. They both are somewhat inconsistent on corners, I've seen some SGC 60 T206s that look a lot closer to VG, some a whole lot closer. Both also seem to vary on creases. Sometimes really coming down hard on them sometimes not.

Anyone trying crossovers should spend some time learning what stuff their favorite company penalizes more and avoid those cards.

Steve B

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