T210 Population Question

DixieBaseball · #1 12-05-2016, 10:19 AM

I wanted to comment on Joe Jackson. I think we all get lulled into thinking this card is not rare by how often it comes up for sale and flashed and marketed in front of our eyes constantly. (quarterly in some auction). I would ask anyone to tell me their definition of Rare. 10 or less? 15 or less? 20 or less? Joe is in that mix somewhere... Obviously, his card has been looked for the most out of the T210's, so most are unearthed and probably a very few still left buried in a group of T210's somewhere, meaning most/majority are accounted for... So how many Joe's are there on Population reports of PSA/SGC?

Here's a few pics of some of my favorite Memphis players for Nick...

tbob · #2 12-05-2016, 12:05 PM

For several years I have attempted to collect the entire T210 set (minus Joe Jax and Stengel) and I believe I will never finish, but it's been both interesting and fun to collect the red bordered cards. There are series which are tough (obviously) and then scarcities among the cards in the tough series. Series 2 was a snap, there are a couple of cards in Series 1 which NEVER pop up for sale and 3 is not too bad except if, like me, you go after the orange border cards which are only in Series 3. Series 5 is doable but then comes the problem. About half of the Series 8 cards are obtainable but the other half have proven to be very difficult, like the Memphis cards. 6 and 7 are tough but I have been fighting through those scarcities. Series 4 may be the least known tough series. There are some cards in that series which seemingly never are offered for sale.
2016 was a good year for me although I bought arguably the toughest card in Series 1, one which I had never seen offered before, Al Lee of Macon. There is another Lee in Series 1, Jack Lee of Jacksonville. The seller accidentally sent me the common fair condition Jack Lee and sent the tough vgex Al Lee to the guy who won the Jack Lee, by mistake. The guy who got my card refused to return it to the seller (hopefully you are reading this so you know I know who you are), so I am still searching for Al Lee if anyone out there has one. He told the seller he immediately sent it to TPG for slabbing so it is obvious he knew he had been the beneficiary of the mistake. 99% of collectors on this Board would have done the "right thing" but I guess he is a "1%er."
Sorry for the rant.....
tbob

seablaster · #3 12-05-2016, 05:10 PM

There's definitely some solid information in this thread. In regard to the population of particular cards and difficulties of the different series, I think we can only speculate.

Having collected this set for a few years myself, I contend that the most difficult T210 card is the one you're currently searching for.

mybuddyinc · #4 12-05-2016, 07:15 PM

Finishing Series 1 is tougher than it is deemed. I found, overall, Jacksonville was a tad tougher than other teams. But, as TBob says, there are some real toughies out there. However, never really knew Lee, Macon was one (added him to my five top toughs). BTW, that's brutally sad "Lee" situation, stinks....

My Tough Ones (and maybe reasons why):

Viola -- Same player as misspelled T206 Violat. Maybe the T206 connection, or him being one of the earliest Latin players. I "think"

he is THE toughest.
Schwietzka -- Don't know. Maybe the same reason he is one of my favorites: Great name and pose.
Manion and Lipe: Same, possible T206 (T211 ?) connection.
"Oyster Joe" Martina -- Rookie card of a player with long (20+ years) minor league experience, and "odd" late career appearance with World Champion 1924 Senators.
Lee, Macon -- ??????

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It is a great set to pursue. Yeah, 610 isn't terribly realistic. BUT, you can collect them any way you want --- team, series, region, etc........

Fun stuff, Scott

ctownboy · #5 12-05-2016, 09:46 PM

Since there is a guesstimate for the number of cards for each series and there are a number of people on the board who own these cards, why doesn't someone (not me since I don't know much about the set) start a spreadsheet and see how many cards members own and then compare that to the estimates?

David

wnp22 · #6 12-05-2016, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DixieBaseball

I wanted to comment on Joe Jackson. I think we all get lulled into thinking this card is not rare by how often it comes up for sale and flashed and marketed in front of our eyes constantly. (quarterly in some auction). I would ask anyone to tell me their definition of Rare. 10 or less? 15 or less? 20 or less? Joe is in that mix somewhere... Obviously, his card has been looked for the most out of the T210's, so most are unearthed and probably a very few still left buried in a group of T210's somewhere, meaning most/majority are accounted for... So how many Joe's are there on Population reports of PSA/SGC?

Here's a few pics of some of my favorite Memphis players for Nick...

Wow, great stuff. Thanks for posting the scans! Fingers crossed that one day I can finish off the Memphis set.

Beansballcardblog · #7 03-25-2018, 07:22 PM

Thanks to everyone that cmooneted on this thread. I�ve decided that I want to collect some of these and there�s not much info out there. This is the best source of info that I�ve found yet!

oldjudge · #8 03-25-2018, 09:32 PM

A few years ago I knew if three complete T210 sets and several near completion. I'd say that all cards have at least ten copies.

paul · #9 03-26-2018, 08:35 PM

How tough is the Mascot card?

edjs · #10 03-26-2018, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul

How tough is the Mascot card?

Not so much tough as loved and not sold very often. Which makes them pricey when they come available.

Piratedogcardshows · #11 03-26-2018, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul

How tough is the Mascot card?

I may have missing one or two but I have seen the Mascot card for sale a total of 5 times in the last 6 years. And the same card accounted for two of those sales.

Nice one Ed!

edjs · #12 03-26-2018, 10:21 PM

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=Jason;1761440]I may have missing one or two but I have seen the Mascot card for sale a total of 5 times in the last 6 years. And the same card accounted for two of those sales.

Nice one Ed!

Jason, I still don't think it is all that tough a card, I think I am right that it just is not offered up all that often. It, to me, is the cutest card from the era. I am assuming that Kelly, Goldsboro is this guy's dad, and by contrast, dad's pop report is lower. To me "tough" means hard to even find, let alone buy. I could get a Joe Jackson tonight (not saying it isn't scarce, it really is) if I had the cash, and I don't think that one coming up every year is tough (you said you have seen five in six years). We both know there are some really tough cards, some I have never seen for public sale. I think it was you that bought that Viox awhile back, and that was the first time I have seen that card for sale, though one sold since then. I guess it is a personal definition of what "tough" is. Anyway, just a discussion, not meant as attack. Thanks for the compliment, the back of my Kelly is why I could afford it, but I could care less, I love this card.

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