OT New $22,000.00 set from Topps..

[Luke]

This stuff makes me sick to my stomach. I remember the first time I heard about a card company cutting up a bat that Jimmie Foxx had used. It just makes me sad.

I can't understand how there is even one person out there who would want a piece of a cut up bat on a card (or a cut up signature) rather than whatever other piece of memorabilia or autograph they could buy with the same money.

[packs]

I will never understand why Topps can't use redemption cards instead of those cut up abominations. Wouldn't the person who pulled the card rather have the complete item? What kind of monster would prefer a card like that?

[bbcard1]

There was a box break (or case break if you prefer) at $159 per slot that sold out pretty quickly. It should yield the breaker a cool $5K in profit. I would have thought about taking a slot but with my luck would have ended up with the Jose Batista sketch card.

[pawpawdiv9]

Originally Posted by bbcard1

There was a box break (or case break if you prefer) at $159 per slot that sold out pretty quickly. It should yield the breaker a cool $5K in profit. I would have thought about taking a slot but with my luck would have ended up with the Jose Batista sketch card.

I responded to a Net54 thread about this in the 'watercooler section' and showed some pics and about LIVE BREAKS.

I know they are doing this on Blowout forums @155.00 or 146.00 by Houdini
Several are planned
http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/a...-per-spot.html

If you look on Ebay right now: There 1 for 179.99 and 2 others have it for 550 dollars.
I also seen where folks are selling the briefcase itself.

Break by mystlsportscards $179.99
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-Topps-T...cAAOSw2xRYRKze

Break by Oliversportscards $550.00

WE WILL BE DOING THIS A BIT DIFFERENT THAN OTHER BREAKERS... EACH IS ONE SPOT AND THE FULL SET GOES AS 1 SPOT, THE SKETCH REPRO SET GOES AS 1 SPOT. FOR A TOTAL OF 56 SPOTS

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-SPOT-IN-AI...gAAOSwnHZYQ3N6

[KingFisk]

Originally Posted by bbcard1

There was a box break (or case break if you prefer) at $159 per slot that sold out pretty quickly. It should yield the breaker a cool $5K in profit. I would have thought about taking a slot but with my luck would have ended up with the Jose Batista sketch card.

I jumped in on one on ebay last night for $180, I think. It was the result of irrational exuberance from the stock market's latest run, I think (aside from the post-Fed announcement yesterday). I was pretty excited at the chance of winning a unique card, but as I read the fine print I saw they were also giving away the box and an "invitation to a Topps event" as part of the break. SInce my luck is generally rotten, I imagine I'll end up with the box or the John Smoltz base card. If anyone cares, I'll let you know how I make out.

[BobC]

I work with a colleague who along with another friend of mine, are Breakers. He mentioned being offered two cases of this product from their distributor but, passed on it as they weren't sure the price would be worth it. He said he's now sorry they didn't take the two offered to them.

Apparently my friend heard that Mathewson cut signature card has already been flipped for something like $16K. He said he also heard that someone went ahead and sold a complete base card set of the Transcendant cards for about $7,500 itself, and that the base cards alone were going for upwards of $100-$125 a piece.

He's now saying they could have easily made about $6K per case and sold them both out in one evening. The hobby isn't dead or dying, just morphed into the use of Breakers to sell/distribute new products anymore, with manufactured rarities being the main draw. Apparently Topps did very well with this new release so, expect to see them try to do more high-priced releases like it in the future, and for Panini to follow. With this kind of money involved, it is sad to think that even more vintage memorabilia and documents will be sought to cut up and include on cards for future distribution. Topps and Panini are in business to make money, not preserve history. Sad to say.

BobC

[KingFisk]

Originally Posted by BobC

I work with a colleague who along with another friend of mine, are Breakers. He mentioned being offered two cases of this product from their distributor but, passed on it as they weren't sure the price would be worth it. He said he's now sorry they didn't take the two offered to them.

Apparently my friend heard that Mathewson cut signature card has already been flipped for something like $16K. He said he also heard that someone went ahead and sold a complete base card set of the Transcendant cards for about $7,500 itself, and that the base cards alone were going for upwards of $100-$125 a piece.

He's now saying they could have easily made about $6K per case and sold them both out in one evening. The hobby isn't dead or dying, just morphed into the use of Breakers to sell/distribute new products anymore, with manufactured rarities being the main draw. Apparently Topps did very well with this new release so, expect to see them try to do more high-priced releases like it in the future, and for Panini to follow. With this kind of money involved, it is sad to think that even more vintage memorabilia and documents will be sought to cut up and include on cards for future distribution. Topps and Panini are in business to make money, not preserve history. Sad to say.

BobC

Mathewson cut signature is up on ebay now for $20K.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Christy-Math...kAAOSwImRYT~zp

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by KingFisk

Mathewson cut signature is up on ebay now for $20K.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Christy-Math...kAAOSwImRYT~zp

Yes, and music will end very quickly, and someone will be left holding the bag and won't be able to make any money off it all all. Maybe one possibly two flips and then game over.

[Shoebox]

But what if I own a game used bat and the buy a second and put it through the wood chipper Fargo style to make the one I own more scarce?

Been a couple of threads where that is discussed and theorized with cards and no one seems especially horrified by the suggestion, but if the same practice involves a modern card release there is no shortage of collectors expressing outrage.

Why the disconnect on one but not the other?

[iowadoc77]

Originally Posted by packs

I will never understand why Topps can't use redemption cards instead of those cut up abominations. Wouldn't the person who pulled the card rather have the complete item? What kind of monster would prefer a card like that?

because these are not memorabilia collectors. they are card collectors only. i agree with your point, but i think this is why

[bn2cardz]

I personally think some signature cut cards look better after being presented in card format. I hate, though, when I can see the cut edges because the design of the card came before the item. If you are going to make a one-of-one then plan it out so that it presents the autograph in the best way, otherwise keep it as is.

In this case it was a player's release and signed by Mathewson as a president of the team. I am sure there are plenty out there and would have not had an issue with it being included as a cut for a card if the presentation made it that much better, but I really just don't think it does in this situation.

[packs]

Originally Posted by iowadoc77

because these are not memorabilia collectors. they are card collectors only. i agree with your point, but i think this is why

But the Mathewson market is so specific. If your product contains Mathewson as a chase card, you are pandering to our specific audience, which is one that is obsessed with preservation. Why would someone who only collects Mike Trout cards be interested in Mathewson being a draw to buy a box?