Ridiculous

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

His red refractors have sold in the $100k range. $500k isn't as absurd as it sounds. Honestly if it went to auction I couldn't see it hammering for less than $200k and I know offers of more than that have been tried with this item. If you want to mock it feel free, but it is the most important single card of the past 25 years of baseball cards and at the end of the day the modern hobby is no different than the one celebrated here.

But the next morning after the alcohol wears off, it's quite different.

[clydepepper]

Seller's located in Taiwan


NUFF SAID


Of course, he only needs to sell one at that price to prove us all wrong...stranger things HAVE happened (but, don't ask me for a specific instance)
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[Gary Dunaier]

Makes that Stephen Strasburg 1/1 that sold for $16K sound like a real bargain.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Gary Dunaier

Makes that Stephen Strasburg 1/1 that sold for $16K sound like a real bargain.

Or the Yasiel Puig Superfractor that sold for $18,000. Wonder what they would sell for now.

I actually love going over to the BO forums and watching people say how these cards are worth so much $. A few years later after a game of hot potato 99.9% are bargain bin cards.

Trout is the IT player now but he isn't even as good as Pujols was. As soon as he has a bad year or injury his card prices will drop like a rock of a very tall cliff.

[thenavarro]

To each their own. I know plenty of people that think it's asinine that I spend a $ on the signature of another human being.

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by thenavarro

To each their own. I know plenty of people that think it's asinine that I spend a $ on the signature of another human being.

Yup, my wife included. Whenever I pick something up, she exclaims "is that something from another dead person"

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by gnaz01

Yup, my wife included. Whenever I pick something up, she exclaims "is that something from another dead person"

Because I am a error/variation collector that even collects print errors for a couple cards. My wife always asks "is that another one of those same exact cards, how many do you need?". I have learned to just say yes instead of showing her the minor print defect.

I do understand modern collecting but after getting caught holding the hot potato a few times I gave it up years ago.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by gnaz01

Yup, my wife included. Whenever I pick something up, she exclaims "is that something from another dead person"

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by gnaz01

Yup, my wife included. Whenever I pick something up, she exclaims "is that something from another dead person"

With the myriad forgers scumming up the hobby, "dead" may be in the eye of the beholder.

Tom C

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by thenavarro

To each their own. I know plenty of people that think it's asinine that I spend a $ on the signature of another human being.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Or the Yasiel Puig Superfractor that sold for $18,000. Wonder what they would sell for now.

I actually love going over to the BO forums and watching people say how these cards are worth so much $. A few years later after a game of hot potato 99.9% are bargain bin cards.

Trout is the IT player now but he isn't even as good as Pujols was. As soon as he has a bad year or injury his card prices will drop like a rock of a very tall cliff.

I call the game the greater fool. It is amazing how people can burn money on these things. If I could spend half a mill on my hobby my first pick would not be that card. My last pick would not be that card.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Trout is the IT player now but he isn't even as good as Pujols was. As soon as he has a bad year or injury his card prices will drop like a rock of a very tall cliff.

Agreed, and that's what makes collecting modern cards completely different from collecting vintage. You might consider Trout a "lock" to have a great career, but the same could be said for Mattingly, etc, early in their careers.

I would say that collecting cards such as this Trout - (which will never end up as a Carp, but possibly a Salmon) <=== see what I did there? - is more akin to collecting modern game-used than to collecting pre-war cards.

[bn2cardz]

To be fair, though, Trout has a WAR7 of 48.5 that places him 8th all time for center fielders. A WAR7 is the best 7 WAR years for a player and he has only played 6 years so far. If he only has a 2.5 as hist best WAR from here on out he would tie DiMaggio for WAR7.

If you compare him to all the people ahead of him in Center Field Career numbers (Mays, Cobb, Mantle, Speaker, Griffey, DiMaggio, Snider) he beats all of their WAR numbers in their first 6 years of play.

He is being compared to the likes of Mattingly, Puig, Stratsburg in this thread. Trouts average yearly WAR is 8. Mattingly never even got above 7.2, Puig never had above a 5.3, Stratsburg never above a 3.5. Even Pujols has a 6 year total of 46 (average of 7.7).

Trout may still get injured and never come back but to put him in the same class of other supposed greats that didn't live up is a mistake. He would be closer to Mantle or Mays slumping after their first 6 years.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

To be fair, though, Trout has a WAR7 of 48.5 that places him 8th all time for center fielders. A WAR7 is the best 7 WAR years for a player and he has only played 6 years so far. If he only has a 2.5 as hist best WAR from here on out he would tie DiMaggio for WAR7.

If you compare him to all the people ahead of him in Center Field Career numbers (Mays, Cobb, Mantle, Speaker, Griffey, DiMaggio, Snider) he beats all of their WAR numbers in their first 6 years of play.

He is being compared to the likes of Mattingly, Puig, Stratsburg in this thread. Trouts average yearly WAR is 8. Mattingly never even got above 7.2, Puig never had above a 5.3, Stratsburg never above a 3.5. Even Pujols has a 6 year total of 46 (average of 7.7).

Trout may still get injured and never come back but to put him in the same class of other supposed greats that didn't live up is a mistake. He would be closer to Mantle or Mays slumping after their first 6 years.

Okay, okay - I'm off to the bank to try for a $500,000 loan so I can buy what is obviously the best deal ever on the greatest baseball card in modern history.

[Mr. Zipper]

The debate isn't really how Trout will compare to the all time greats, the question is will there be long-term interest in the supercalifragilistic card in the future. And, will someone with the means to pay for it also have the motive?

Even if Trout ends with numbers that would make the Babe hang his head in shame, will anyone care enough about this card to dump 6 figures on it? Is it that special and universally known? In a hobby flooded with so many 1 of 1 manufactured cards you need a scorecard to keep track, it seems pretty unlikely to me. But what do I know? If I found that card in a garage sale I'd guess it was worth about $40.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Seller's located in Taiwan





NUFF SAID

What the hell is that supposed to mean? The seller is very, very reputable and well known in high end modern cards.