HOF -> Bonds & clemens

[CMIZ5290]

I think neither should be, but I will add this. The enhancement received by Bonds was staggering compared to Clemens. Bonds's head looked like a pumpkin in his steroid years, and his body was twice the size when he was younger. When Clemens was 20 yrs old, he was leaner and struck out 20 in a game. Both have question marks, but Bonds is a much larger issue IMO compared to what his career would have been without the huge help....

[Peter_Spaeth]

As an aside, Barry Bonds surely is the greatest player in history who never acquired a nickname (other than a few late career sarcastic ones).

[dgo71]

Probably because nicknames tend to be endearing terms and Bonds was never thought of with much regard. Wouldn't surprise me to hear a story of a teammate trying and Bonds being a humorless dick about it.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

As an aside, Barry Bonds surely is the greatest player in history who never acquired a nickname (other than a few late career sarcastic ones).

Chris Berman gave him a nickname - Barry "US" Bonds.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by rats60

Chris Berman gave him a nickname - Barry "US" Bonds.

Yeah but you know what I mean.

[WillBBC]

I'd put them both in in a heartbeat. I'd also make sure the plaque notates the era and why this was such a hot debate for such a long time.

[Rookiemonster]

I voted yes to Clemens . I don't think they had enough against him. Just Brian
Aka some crazy guy who kept old used syringes in a coke can in his basement
For years . You can take his word I choose not to .

Bonds for most of us is the greatest baseball player we will ever see or seen .
But yes he cheated .

Greenie 100% helped enhance a players performance. Even a placebo has positive effects. The Peds that a lot of the players use also were not illegal at the time of use so I don't see the point in that.

As whole picture what is the hall of fame with out the all time hit king , homerun leader , cy young leader ? It's a joke and in turn makes all of the honors held in the wall that much less meaningful .