PSA/SGC grade est. - Aim high or low?

scomeau · #1 01-03-2017, 06:53 PM

Hi John,

Yes, in a way, but I didn't get a lot of specific advice on how to sensibly estimate. Particularly when a one-grade jump can be a BIG jump. If I'm submitting an '87 Ripken, I'm not so crazy.

If, as Ben suggests, if I were looking at a raw 54 Bowman Williams (and I have one!), I find it hard to pick the level for submission.

Simple as that. So I was looking for a strategy. One fellow suggested that if a card sits on the fence, pick the lower rail and if my choice is too conservative, the grader will ask me to reconsider. Or so he says.

I would love to know if frequent submitters are usually disappointed, satisfied, or thrilled with the results, and how that might affect their submission.

Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse.

scomeau · #2 01-03-2017, 06:56 PM

Ben,

Great input. I met Matt when last in Boca. Good to know he reached out.

I think I agree with your assessment, too. SGC for my wall and grand children. PSA to sell unwanted material.

Thanks.

bnorth · #3 01-03-2017, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scomeau

Hi John,

Yes, in a way, but I didn't get a lot of specific advice on how to sensibly estimate. Particularly when a one-grade jump can be a BIG jump. If I'm submitting an '87 Ripken, I'm not so crazy.

If, as Ben suggests, if I were looking at a raw 54 Bowman Williams (and I have one!), I find it hard to pick the level for submission.

Simple as that. So I was looking for a strategy. One fellow suggested that if a card sits on the fence, pick the lower rail and if my choice is too conservative, the grader will ask me to reconsider. Or so he says.

I would love to know if frequent submitters are usually disappointed, satisfied, or thrilled with the results, and how that might affect their submission.

Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse.

After submitting a few times you will get an idea of what to expect. Usually if you are surprised it is because you missed something on the card. I find SGC to be more consistent. I have both 54 Williams, a complete 59 Fleer Ted Williams set and a bunch of other cards there now. I wrote down my guesses on the 59 set and will compare when they get back.

scomeau · #4 01-03-2017, 07:05 PM

Ben,

The '59 set is one of my favorites of that era. I like the red Mantle and the blue Musial, among others. Great players and nice design and colors.

I have a bunch I opened myself. Of course, I crunched most of them! No matter, though.

scomeau · #5 01-03-2017, 07:07 PM

Ben, Oops, I thought you meant the Topps '59. I have a couple of the Williams set.

Bill77 · #6 01-03-2017, 07:05 PM

Just to get more of an idea as to what you are thinking of grading some scans of a card or two would help you get a little more info. But just using the examples from your 1st post I would think that you could submit your better cards at either SGC's Grand Slam level or maybe even the Express level as the cards mention in your 1st post are in that price range ($500-$2000).

If I'm way off I'm sure someone will say something.

scomeau · #7 01-03-2017, 07:18 PM

Bill,

I see what you mean, but the Plank for instance, is just a little short. So, it might be an 8 or an 'A'. If I submit it cheap and it's good, I hope they would not grade it low due to my service level. If I submit it as a 'Walk Thru' ($2,000 - 9,999), it could cost me $200 for an 'A'. In general, that's my dilemma.

Thanks for your help.

Bill77 · #8 01-03-2017, 08:20 PM

For prices on the Plank I was going by these http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-M116-Sp...8AAOSwRQlXeThc and http://www.ebay.com/itm/1910-M116-Sp...wAAOSwPCVX63Zd
Which shows that value like grades are also subjective.

Bill Avery

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