Dan McKee is a Star

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79

I am not sure it matters. You have one guy on the face of the planet that wanted to spend a monstrous sum of money over what the card is probably worth on a card that is at my guess a low population and also low demand.

If he or I was a business man, that was the right time to sell. It is likely worth less to a lot of other people. Values, morals or not, it will likely never be sold for more than what was offered, but I have definitely been wrong before. LOL.

It seems pretty simple to me. He backed out of the deal he had agreed to after Dan did exactly what was asked of him and got the card graded. The grade didn't change anything about the card. It was the same card he had already agreed to buy and it was still the only one known. Whatever it graded was largely irrelevant. It just gave the guy an excuse to reneg. That's BS and I don't blame Dan a bit for telling the guy to F off. I would have too.

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by Kenny Cole

It seems pretty simple to me. He backed out of the deal he had agreed to after Dan did exactly what was asked of him and got the card graded. The grade didn't change anything about the card. It was the same card he had already agreed to buy and it was still the only one known. Whatever it graded was largely irrelevant. It just gave the guy an excuse to reneg. That's BS and I don't blame Dan a bit for telling the guy to F off. I would have too.

Well, like I was saying, I know he can do what he wants, and that he did do what he wants and I don't fault him for it, BUT it was likely from a financial decision a terrible idea to do what he did. He will likely never get that price again. That was the point. Nothing more or less.

[Snapolit1]

If you think that hasn't hurt the value of this card I have a large box of Jose Fernandez rookie card I would like to sell you.

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

If you think that hasn't hurt the value of this card I have a large box of Jose Fernandez rookie card I would like to sell you.

Who cares/..... I am keeping it so if it is valued at $100 or $1,000,000.00 doesn't matter.... I have tons of other expensive cards so means nothing to me!

[pbspelly]

Originally Posted by Kenny Cole

It seems pretty simple to me. He backed out of the deal he had agreed to after Dan did exactly what was asked of him and got the card graded. The grade didn't change anything about the card. It was the same card he had already agreed to buy and it was still the only one known. Whatever it graded was largely irrelevant. It just gave the guy an excuse to reneg. That's BS and I don't blame Dan a bit for telling the guy to F off. I would have too.

I'm not sure this is correct. Maybe I misread the article, but it seemed to me that the buyer was alleging that the photos Dan displayed of the card misrepresented the card's condition. The buyer never actually saw the card in person, and so was going by photos Dan had posted on eBay. I've seen complaints here all the time about eBay photos that are doctored to make a card's condition look better than it really is. I'm not saying that Dan did that. I don't know Dan, but everyone here seems to speak highly of him so I'm sure that isn't the case. I'm just saying that that seems to be what the dispute is about, whether the condition of the card is actually the same as it appeared in the photos.

[irv]

Originally Posted by pbspelly

I'm not sure this is correct. Maybe I misread the article, but it seemed to me that the buyer was alleging that the photos Dan displayed of the card misrepresented the card's condition. The buyer never actually saw the card in person, and so was going by photos Dan had posted on eBay. I've seen complaints here all the time about eBay photos that are doctored to make a card's condition look better than it really is. I'm not saying that Dan did that. I don't know Dan, but everyone here seems to speak highly of him so I'm sure that isn't the case. I'm just saying that that seems to be what the dispute is about, whether the condition of the card is actually the same as it appeared in the photos.

That is what I thought as well when I read the article. I immediately thought of Battlefield and how she "manipulates" her cards to look better than what they actually are.

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by irv

That is what I thought as well when I read the article. I immediately thought of Battlefield and how she "manipulates" her cards to look better than what they actually are.

This is complete BULLSHIT! I sent him regular scans at 300 dpi

I sell as darby-s and you get what you see in my listings

Thanks for reminding me why I stopped posting here

[kmac32]

Originally Posted by danmckee

This is complete BULLSHIT! I sent him regular scans at 300 dpi

I sell as darby-s and you get what you see in my listings

Thanks for reminding me why I stopped posting here

I just bought a T205 Broadleaf from Dan and no complaint about his scans. Good person to deal with in my opinion.

[BengoughingForAwhile]

Originally Posted by kmac32

I just bought a T205 Broadleaf from Dan and no complaint about his scans. Good person to deal with in my opinion.

I too have bought from Dan. A beautiful T206 John Ganzel PSA 4.5 to be exact. I was pleasantly surprised at how nice the card looked after receiving it, never thinking it could be as beautiful in hand as it looked in Dan's crystal clear scans.

[oldjudge]

Dan is one of the good guys in the hobby and I am proud to call him my friend.

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by irv

That is what I thought as well when I read the article. I immediately thought of Battlefield and how she "manipulates" her cards to look better than what they actually are.

Someone please send me Irv's ebay ID so I can block it, anyone comparing me to that scumbag battlefield has no right ever doing business with me. Look at my feedback as darby-s, this is completely unwarranted.

[danmckee]

Of course it didn't look like a 1, it is a gorgeous card, has color all the way to the edge like a 1971 topps, has a horizontal crease and a tiny spot of paperloss on back. Killer eye appeal but a technical grade of 1, and all he wanted was that it was authenticated because he is too stupid to know the cards himself. Let some 25 year old kid tell him it is real, well I didn't need that when I just mashed those Washington Times cards on ebay..... No need for some punk grading service to tell me they are real......

I am gone

Done with this chatboard stuff

[irv]

Originally Posted by danmckee

This is complete BULLSHIT! I sent him regular scans at 300 dpi

I sell as darby-s and you get what you see in my listings

Thanks for reminding me why I stopped posting here

Originally Posted by danmckee

This is ridiculous, I do not doctor photos, the guy viewing them is a complete ignorant non collecting idiot.

Originally Posted by danmckee

Someone please send me Irv's ebay ID so I can block it, anyone comparing me to that scumbag battlefield has no right ever doing business with me. Look at my feedback as darby-s, this is completely unwarranted.

Did you read my next post after the one I posted above, or did you conveniently skip that one so you could add drama to this one?

While you go retrieve that one to quote, read the one above and tell me where I personally accuse you of actually doing that.

[danmckee]

Sadly Irv, I do not read well at 54 years old and a Redneck

But I truly hope you do not think I am near the scumbag Battlefield is.

I am a collector at heart and pride myself on good business.

Sorry I missed your follow up posts

Dan

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by pbspelly

I'm not sure this is correct. Maybe I misread the article, but it seemed to me that the buyer was alleging that the photos Dan displayed of the card misrepresented the card's condition. The buyer never actually saw the card in person, and so was going by photos Dan had posted on eBay. I've seen complaints here all the time about eBay photos that are doctored to make a card's condition look better than it really is. I'm not saying that Dan did that. I don't know Dan, but everyone here seems to speak highly of him so I'm sure that isn't the case. I'm just saying that that seems to be what the dispute is about, whether the condition of the card is actually the same as it appeared in the photos.

Thank about that for a minute. There is only one card known. ONE. Why would Dan alter a scan to improve the condition of the ONLY card known in order to sell it to a guy who is allegedly begging to buy it? Why would he try to do that? That doesn't even make sense when the only question is if the card is real. Plus, I don't think Dan would do that even if he could. He has never been anything but honest and upfront in the dealings I've had with him. Just my opinion but if that's the allegation, I would believe Dan over the buyer based on the currently available facts.

Kenny

[irv]

Originally Posted by Kenny Cole

Thank about that for a minute. There is only one card known. ONE. Why would Dan alter a scan to improve the condition of the ONLY card known in order to sell it to a guy who is allegedly begging to buy it? Why would he try to do that? That doesn't even make sense when the only question is if the card is real. Plus, I don't think Dan would do that even if he could. He has never been anything but honest and upfront in the dealings I've had with him. Just my opinion but if that's the allegation, I would believe Dan over the buyer based on the currently available facts.

Kenny

These quotes were what I used to come to my conclusion. I am not saying, suggesting or alluding to this is what was done by, Dan, it was based on what was written within the article.

"Aeder balked because, he said, he received a poor appraisal of the card’s condition".

"The final grade disturbed Aeder. “The pictures he had sent did not look like it was a one,” Aeder said".

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by irv

These quotes were what I used to come to my conclusion. I am not saying, suggesting or alluding to this is what was done by, Dan, it was based on what was written within the article.

"Aeder balked because, he said, he received a poor appraisal of the card’s condition".

"The final grade disturbed Aeder. “The pictures he had sent did not look like it was a one,” Aeder said".

To me, that sounds like the grade that the card came back with was lower than either party expected, but that the number grade only ever mattered to one of them.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Kenny Cole

Thank about that for a minute. There is only one card known. ONE. Why would Dan alter a scan to improve the condition of the ONLY card known in order to sell it to a guy who is allegedly begging to buy it? Why would he try to do that? That doesn't even make sense when the only question is if the card is real. Plus, I don't think Dan would do that even if he could. He has never been anything but honest and upfront in the dealings I've had with him. Just my opinion but if that's the allegation, I would believe Dan over the buyer based on the currently available facts.

Kenny

To add another 2 cents to the debate, I am sure there are many instances where a seller gives perfectly honest scans and the card just looks subjectively different in hand. Lighting, angle, etc. No attempt by anyone to defraud anyone. I have the damnedest time sometimes getting halfway decent scans.

[Sean]

I got the impression that the buyer was always planning to try to lower the purchase price. He asked Dan to have the card graded so that he had an excuse to negotiate a reduced price. Just my opinion, but I don't think the buyer ever intended to buy at that price. As Dan said, 1 of 1 is the only number that matters.

[mark evans]

I have NO doubt that Dan is telling the truth about this transaction. Absolutely none.

As I don't know Mr. Aeder, I could not speak to his motives.

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by mark evans

I have NO doubt that Dan is telling the truth about this transaction. Absolutely none.

+1, as I have known Dan for a long time.

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by mark evans

I have NO doubt that Dan is telling the truth about this transaction. Absolutely none.

As I don't know Mr. Aeder, I could not speak to his motives.

Thanks Mark, you are a good friend

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by Sean

I got the impression that the buyer was always planning to try to lower the purchase price. He asked Dan to have the card graded so that he had an excuse to negotiate a reduced price. Just my opinion, but I don't think the buyer ever intended to buy at that price. As Dan said, 1 of 1 is the only number that matters.

+1

[conor912]

If I was willing to pay six figures for a card, you can be damn sure I would fly to wherever it resided to look at the in person before finalizing an offer. This whole debacle coming down to the quality of scans is absurd, imho.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Sean

I got the impression that the buyer was always planning to try to lower the purchase price. He asked Dan to have the card graded so that he had an excuse to negotiate a reduced price. Just my opinion, but I don't think the buyer ever intended to buy at that price. As Dan said, 1 of 1 is the only number that matters.

+2

And it's even more apparent that the butthurt is flowing through this guy pretty heavily right now.

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by Sean

I got the impression that the buyer was always planning to try to lower the purchase price. He asked Dan to have the card graded so that he had an excuse to negotiate a reduced price. Just my opinion, but I don't think the buyer ever intended to buy at that price. As Dan said, 1 of 1 is the only number that matters.

Bingo again!! Some of you are much smarter than others here

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by pbspelly

I'm not sure this is correct. Maybe I misread the article, but it seemed to me that the buyer was alleging that the photos Dan displayed of the card misrepresented the card's condition. The buyer never actually saw the card in person, and so was going by photos Dan had posted on eBay. I've seen complaints here all the time about eBay photos that are doctored to make a card's condition look better than it really is. I'm not saying that Dan did that. I don't know Dan, but everyone here seems to speak highly of him so I'm sure that isn't the case. I'm just saying that that seems to be what the dispute is about, whether the condition of the card is actually the same as it appeared in the photos.

This is ridiculous, I do not doctor photos, the guy viewing them is a complete ignorant non collecting idiot.