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Old 01-13-2017, 05:55 AM
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Speaking of Cuban (and Venezuelan) cards, I have always shied away from them because I was concerned with the card stock.

However, since I have never even seen one in person, let alone own one, I'm still not positive that is an issue.

Could any one give me the skinny on that?



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1916 Claxton Zeenut.... that's a mainstream card set but with only one black player.
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Old 01-13-2017, 06:09 AM
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1916 Claxton Zeenut.... that's a mainstream card set but with only one black player. Then there's the N172 with Treadway (who was said to have been black or part black).
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Speaking of Cuban (and Venezuelan) cards, I have always shied away from them because I was concerned with the card stock.

However, since I have never even seen one in person, let alone own one, I'm still not positive that is an issue.

Could any one give me the skinny on that?



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Except for some of the 1940s issues, such as Caramelo Deportivo and Almanaque Deportivo, which are basically printed on newspaper stock, the stock is generally not an issue for Cuban cards. The bigger issue overall is back damage from being glued in albums and bug holes. The Puerto Rican cards are not an issue as best as I can tell. Doble Aguila cards from Venezuela are also OK. I can't intelligently discuss the other Venezuelan issues. The Dominican cards I own are printed on paper stock and are generally pretty flimsy and fragile. Hope this helps. Best,

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Hasn't there been speculation over George Treadway's ethnicity? He is featured in the Old Judge set.
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Default A Punch and a Cabanas

Here are a couple of NL examples
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Here are a couple of NL examples
Always a show-stopper! These are what I would consider the first "mainstream" cards of NL players - from the 1909 Cabanas and 1910 Punch sets.
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What price range would those two show stopper cards get in an auction? I love punch cards and would love to get one with the original backing seen above. Thanks for sharing
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Default Another one with the back

Not sure if I had posted this one before... as I got it back from SGC this year....

On value, I am not sure... I know only that it has sold twice and it is my most expense card (the Punch Mendez with back). Both private sales were comfortably north of $100k. The Punch Mendez without the back sold for like $30k or so a few years ago - there are only a couple of copies known. Not sure what the premium would be with the one with the back... I think that there are estimates of 3x-10x the ones without the backing.....

At the end of the day, it is only worth what someone is willing to pay, I guess. For me, the Punch Mendez with back is the most important negro league card extant.... but I won't take issue if you call me biased (but I do have most of the other negro league cards as well)! The Pete Hill Cabanas is the only legit contender to the most important negro league card. Of course, if there was a Pop Lloyd Punch with the back, it would take the title from either of these two!
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