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Old 01-22-2017, 12:54 PM
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Hi Richard,
Just curious, I guess the obvious questions are:
1) Whether the autograph business is no longer lucrative or popular enough for the dealer
2) The PSA grading opportunity was much more lucrative for all three
3) A combination of both

I've been a customer of all three of these guys as well as Phil Marks in the past (as well as you and Jim Stinson )
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Old 01-22-2017, 01:17 PM
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Hi Richard,
Just curious, I guess the obvious questions are:
1) Whether the autograph business is no longer lucrative or popular enough for the dealer
2) The PSA grading opportunity was much more lucrative for all three
3) A combination of both

I've been a customer of all three of these guys as well as Phil Marks in the past (as well as you and Jim Stinson )
I really did not get into asking those types of questions and answers. I would assume they will make more money with PSA than they did in their own business but obviously they are also giving up their independence.
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I hope their well-earned respect and reputations do not get lowered or damaged by going to work for a "corporation " that is a business first and as such must turn a profit to be viable.
Giving up your independence for this is a big gamble unless you are looking to slow down and get out of the day to day "rat race' of buying and selling and having customers constantly ask you when making a purchase from you "if their purchase from you will pass PSA ".
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Default Derek Jeter Forged Signature Rookies Card
Before the change-over at PSA, I never observed the below-style Derek Jeter forgery authenticated by PSA....Ever.

I'd sure like to know who at PSA certed it.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/DEREK-JETER-...vip=true&rt=nc





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Old 01-22-2017, 03:42 PM
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Why is that signature not real? Its a auto promo, would his rookie signature not look different from now?
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Why is that signature not real? Its a auto promo, would his rookie signature not look different from now?
It's a common forgery.

Jeter's autograph changed multiple times between 1992 and 2000.

Now check this out. The dopey forger used the same number (477/1000) on the below Jeter forgery on a Signature Rookies card.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/DEREK-JETER-...p2047675.l2557





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The forger was attempting to emulate the below authentic Jeter autograph.





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Old 01-22-2017, 04:32 PM
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Thats pretty funny....they are some sneaky bastards those forgers....

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It's a common forgery.

Jeter's autograph changed multiple times between 1992 and 2000.

Now check this out. The dopey forger used the same number (477/1000) on the below Jeter forgery on a Signature Rookies card.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/DEREK-JETER-...p2047675.l2557





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The forger was attempting to emulate the below authentic Jeter autograph.





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Before the change-over at PSA, I never observed the below-style Derek Jeter forgery authenticated by PSA....Ever.

I'd sure like to know who at PSA certed it.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/DEREK-JETER-...vip=true&rt=nc





Attachment 258676



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http://live.autographmagazine.com/fo...ource=activity
I am sure that PSA transparency will not change.
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I hope their well-earned respect and reputations do not get lowered or damaged by going to work for a "corporation " that is a business first and as such must turn a profit to be viable.
Giving up your independence for this is a big gamble unless you are looking to slow down and get out of the day to day "rat race' of buying and selling and having customers constantly ask you when making a purchase from you "if their purchase from you will pass PSA ".
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...unless you are looking to slow down and get out of the day to day "rat race' of buying and selling and having customers constantly ask you when making a purchase from you "if their purchase from you will pass PSA ".
Well, it will now
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Upon reflection doesn't this leave Richard and Jim Stinson as the last 2 large independent and not PSA / JSA dependent dealers out there ?
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Seems so.
Unfortunately.
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Seems so.
Unfortunately.
I would rather have two people that I can trust. Versus all the bs that has been out there for years.
Look at all the people that have trusted Psa Jsa they are up a creek without a paddle.
I hope people will now realize that the good guys finally won.
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