Do sellers really not know when it's a facsimile signed ball?

[MooseDog]

I've done enough estate appraisals to say that, believe it or not, many people do not know a "real" autograph from a printed one. Some estate people even have have a "let the buyer decide" attitude about it (not the ones I work for!)

I think people post those balls with a "well it might be real, let's see what happens" point of view, and unfortunately some buy with the same thinking.

[RichardSimon]

I get photos of these balls several times a week from people not in the hobby.
They truly believe they have something that has been signed.

[RichardSimon]

I wrote to the seller of that facsimile ball.
Here is his classy reply:
"You don't know that for sure. And does my description say authentic ? I believe it is but don't know for sure that's why I didn't say it was. If your not interested please don't send opinions."

[djson1]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

I wrote to the seller of that facsimile ball.
Here is his classy reply:
"You don't know that for sure. And does my description say authentic ? I believe it is but don't know for sure that's why I didn't say it was. If your not interested please don't send opinions."

Yeah, I also wrote to him this morning and he wrote back pretty quickly, actually. He said that the ink smears and that his "collector" friend even verified it looked real. I didn't want to push him too much as I feel he was innocent in his intentions. If he was a real "con" guy, I'm sure he would just ignore our messages, but he was trying to address my concerns (and he wasn't rude about). I've written to guys on ebay about obvious fakes and they just get really angry sometimes.

Judging by the other stuff he sells (and the size of his hands/fingers), I'm guessing he's just a kid.

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

If your not interested please don't send opinions."

Originally Posted by djson1

Judging by the other stuff he sells (and the size of his hands/fingers), I'm guessing he's just a kid.

He must not have reached the grade in school that teaches the difference between "your" and "you're".

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

I wrote to the seller of that facsimile ball.
Here is his classy reply:
"You don't know that for sure. And does my description say authentic ? I believe it is but don't know for sure that's why I didn't say it was. If your not interested please don't send opinions."

typical complete idiot loser scam-bay jackmehoff reply... I believe Santa Claus is coming to town on Dec 24th too, but it doesn't make it so. Darn fool kids.

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

typical complete idiot loser scam-bay jackmehoff reply... I believe Santa Claus is coming to town on Dec 24th too, but it doesn't make it so. Darn fool kids.

Santa comes on the 25th, which explains the disappointment and skepticism in your house

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Bestdj777

Santa comes on the 25th, which explains the disappointment and skepticism in your house

I'm always waiting up on the 24th for him to come down the chimney and drop off a FAKE Facsimile ball like the obvious one here and I'm always disappointed. Will have to try that 25th thing>>>

[vintagesportscollector]

I'm Jewish, but doesn't Santa come "the night before Christmas", on the 24th?

[cardsnstuff]

I like how Rudolph signed on the stitching too.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

I'm always waiting up on the 24th for him to come down the chimney and drop off a FAKE Facsimile ball like the obvious one here and I'm always disappointed. Will have to try that 25th thing>>>

wouldn't a FAKE facsimile be authentic?

[mrmopar]

Yep, I stumbled upon many Dodger balls like that doing my Garvey searches and finally just stopped trying to "help" people by telling them the good news. I became convinced that more than half of the sellers knew exactly what they had and were trying to be vaguely deceptive. Occasionally there was a thankful person who didn't know and appreciated me taking the time to tell them or at least that is what they politely told me.

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

I wrote to the seller of that facsimile ball.
Here is his classy reply:
"You don't know that for sure. And does my description say authentic ? I believe it is but don't know for sure that's why I didn't say it was. If your not interested please don't send opinions."

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by mrmopar

Yep, I stumbled upon many Dodger balls like that doing my Garvey searches and finally just stopped trying to "help" people by telling them the good news. I became convinced that more than half of the sellers knew exactly what they had and were trying to be vaguely deceptive. Occasionally there was a thankful person who didn't know and appreciated me taking the time to tell them or at least that is what they politely told me.

+1

I've run across many sellers listing souvenir baseballs and I have no doubt the majority of them know exactly what they're selling.

[egri]

I see the same thing with my project; sellers will try and pass off the fascimile signature on the back of a 1953 Topps as authentic, even though the black ink in the player bio is clearly printed on top of the red ink signature.