Is JSA a trustworty company

[Hardspun8]

thanks I will move it.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Hardspun8

thanks I will move it.

Only a moderator can move stuff. I can't imagine what it would be like if we opened that up. Holy smokes . Welcome to the forum too, Adam!!

and the thread in the memorabilia section was locked in order to have the discussion in one place, here. thanks

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[Tradegeek]

There is a lot of debate surrounding JSA and PSA.

The authenticators to COMPLETELY avoid are GA/GAI (anything with Global in the name). They will slap a COA on anything. Which is why they sell for a fraction of the price as anything with a PSA/JSA certificate. Knowledgeable autograph collectors know that anything with a GA/GAI cert is almost certainly fake.

There are now 4 authentication with reasonably good reputations. PSA (the oldest and largest), JSA (Founded by a former PSA authenticator), SGC and Beckett (Beckett took PSA's two top authenticators recently).

Personally, I am not a big fan of any of them. From my experience, PSA and JSA get things right most of the time. But they have made some very embarrassing errors over the years and while they may get things 90% to 95% right, I still won't buy an autograph solely based on their cert. There are also large dealers which seem to have very cozy relationships with both PSA and JSA who get anything authenticated (I have seen illegible scribbles with PSA stickers).

I'm not very familiar with Beckett (they are brand new) and I haven't seen much from SGC. But both are well respected for card grading.

Personally, I put more of an emphasis on who I'm buying the autograph from over which company authenticated it. The exception being when there is a PSA or JSA "witnessed" COA. That means there was a public or private signing and a PSA or JSA rep witnessed the item being signed. Those are rock solid.

I hope this was helpful.

[Hardspun8]

Thanks you for your the information. It will help me build my man cave.

[Forever Young]

Yes they are. They are not perfect but I would suggest JSA and PSA for authentication. There is no way to know for sure if an auto is legit unless you were there. I believe if you buy an item with a psa cert, it is more likely genuine than without it. It also helps protect your investment a bit more.
Bottom line is, do your research before you buy any autograph. If you don't want to do that, buy one with psa or jsa and you will most likely be fine vs any other coa imo. good luck

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Tradegeek

The exception being when there is a PSA or JSA "witnessed" COA. That means there was a public or private signing and a PSA or JSA rep witnessed the item being signed. Those are rock solid.

I hope this was helpful.

That is not necessarily so.
Based on a detailed e mail from Jimmy Spence (when at PSA) to me, Steve Rocchi made a deal with B&J and PSA certed Joe DiMaggio autographs as being in person witnessed. They were not in person witnessed. They were also bogus.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

That is not necessarily so.
Based on a detailed e mail from Jimmy Spence (when at PSA) to me, Steve Rocchi made a deal with a B&J and PSA certed Joe DiMaggio autographs as being in person witnessed. They were not in person witnessed. They were also bogus.

Yep.

And this is one of them.




DiMaggioRocchiForgeryNIP.jpg

[Fuddjcal]

Yea, those Joe DiFakeio's make me puke every time I see them. I have almost always seen them with the "yankee clipper enterprises" sticker and fake letter from that Morris Crookberg guy.....Joe's so called agent/friend???

Anyway you slice it, you need to buy the autograph and not the sticker. All of the authentication companies are prone to mistakes and fraud at some point.

It's the others that never have a real autograph associated to it...The names are just to many to try and list. Moby Dick is shorter these days. Like that Tony Podsada clown has about 10 different ones to support all the FAKES he's been pedaling for at least 30 years that I know of.

[Snapolit1]

I don't buy autographed items. Period. I am sure I could practice Babe Ruth for, oh maybe 2 weeks, and do a really great one. Just sayin.

I've seen autograph experts square off in a court of law on opposite sides of a case, both credentialed up to their eyeballs, both seemingly honest players, completely at odds as to whether a signature is genuine. If two "professionals" with long track records of doing this can't agree I'm dubious about anyone's call.