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[Peter_Spaeth]

And your evidence is one missed call? And you infer from that that the NFL instructed the referees to make sure NE won? That's pretty weak David. Do you think 31 unanswered points had anything to do with it, or were the referees responsible for that too?

By the way on that non-call how did Ryan lose his helmet? Sanu had him by the face mask too.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Fine, they both had each other by the face mask. Why wasn't it called? Still should have been offsetting penalties, replay of down.

I'll give you another example. On the pick 6 drive, the Pats down 14-0, there were 3 defensive holding calls on Atlanta all on 3rd down to extend the drive. 3 defensive holding calls, all on 3rd down?

You may have had the game on, but it's obvious you weren't watching it.

[TUM301]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Fine, they both had each other by the face mask. Why wasn't it called? Still should have been offsetting penalties, replay of down.

I'll give you another example. On the pick 6 drive, the Pats down 14-0, there were 3 defensive holding calls on Atlanta all on 3rd down to extend the drive. 3 defensive holding calls, all on 3rd down?

You may have had the game on, but it's obvious you weren't watching it.

So as you see it or saw it, the NFL is nothing more than Hulk Hogan and Andre "T" Giant ?

[TUM301]

On a side note for N E fans or really anyone old enough to remember, what`s more improbable these Pats coming back from 25 in last night`s Super Bowl or the 1986 Mets comeback game 6 against the Sox ? As a refresher, in 86 the Sox, trying to erase many decades of misery, were up 3 games to 2 and 5 to 3 I believe with 2 out 2 strikes and NOBODY on in the bottom of the 9`th. The entire region was literally the real "Walking Dead" the following mourning.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by TUM301

On a side note for N E fans or really anyone old enough to remember, what`s more improbable these Pats coming back from 25 in last night`s Super Bowl or the 1986 Mets comeback game 6 against the Sox ? As a refresher, in 86 the Sox, trying to erase many decades of misery, were up 3 games to 2 and 5 to 3 I believe with 2 out 2 strikes and NOBODY on in the bottom of the 9`th. The entire region was literally the real "Walking Dead" the following mourning.

Thanks for the reminder. I believe several times during that inning the Mets were down to their last strike.

[scottzoe]

Originally Posted by TUM301

On a side note for N E fans or really anyone old enough to remember, what`s more improbable these Pats coming back from 25 in last night`s Super Bowl or the 1986 Mets comeback game 6 against the Sox ? As a refresher, in 86 the Sox, trying to erase many decades of misery, were up 3 games to 2 and 5 to 3 I believe with 2 out 2 strikes and NOBODY on in the bottom of the 9`th. The entire region was literally the real "Walking Dead" the following mourning.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Thanks for the reminder. I believe several times during that inning the Mets were down to their last strike.

Not only down to their last strike, the center field scoreboard at Shea had the message Congratulations Boston Red Sox, 1986 World Champions, before Carter started that rally.

[Peter_Spaeth]

The ultimate example of Yogi's aphorism.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by TUM301

On a side note for N E fans or really anyone old enough to remember, what`s more improbable these Pats coming back from 25 in last night`s Super Bowl or the 1986 Mets comeback game 6 against the Sox ? As a refresher, in 86 the Sox, trying to erase many decades of misery, were up 3 games to 2 and 5 to 3 I believe with 2 out 2 strikes and NOBODY on in the bottom of the 9`th.

It was the bottom of the 10th, the Red Sox had scored 2 runs in the top of the 10th.

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I'll give you another example. On the pick 6 drive, the Pats down 14-0, there were 3 defensive holding calls on Atlanta all on 3rd down to extend the drive. 3 defensive holding calls, all on 3rd down?

The timing of those flags was pretty crazy, but I also saw several Falcon holds not called (Edelman and Amendola included). These Falcons, coached by Quinn seemed to be channeling the Seahawk DB methodology that says to play very physically, screw up timing, knock guys off their routes, while knowing "the officials won't call holding on every play". There was lots of holding, jersey grabbing last night.

I think the facemask/hands to face was just missed, but agree with others that the game seemed pretty well called overall. Loved that the refs got a few incredibly fast developing plays right on the field, including Jones' securing the ball/toe tap, and Edleman's miracle catch. Don't remember anything being overturned by the booth.

Adding-- I'm not a Pats fan, but do appreciate watching them.