Am I missing something here?????

[rats60]

Why offer 17% of the price? If someone has their cards overpriced in my opinion, I don't bother low balling them.

[PhillipAbbott79]

PWCC sold a PSA 5 or 6 cobb with what they describe as a 'tick mark' which ultimately to me is a small loss of paper.

They defended the PSA grade and would not change the description. The card brought top dollar. This is essentially the same thing. One would argue that it should be a 2, but others may argue that it could be a 5, based on how well it presents. If I am not mistaken they changed their standards to account for 'overall presentation'.

There is some staining on the back. That is likely the justification for the price Additionally, we are assuming it is missing paper. The scans are not that great and the listing doesn't say that it is missing paper, even though it likely is.

The front is 6 or 7, the back without the missing paper is a 5 with the staining and with the paper it is a 2. It is priced at the price of a 5. Generally I find that if you try to convince someone that their item is not that nice, then make an offer they are a lot less likely to take you seriously.

[autograf]

I always use the rule of NOPEBG for YEPBG auctions......................JMO.........

[Snapolit1]

My experience with him has been that it very much depends on the card. I have offered 70% of his ask and he has come back and asked for 95%. But in other instances he has accepted my first offer. Odd but I'm sure he has his reasons. Maybe at some point he gets sick of carrying certain cards.
Guy has some really nice stuff. Doesn't owe anyone a low price. If you think he's not worth dealing with I get that. But I've been pleasantly surprised a few times.

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by rats60

Why offer 17% of the price? If someone has their cards overpriced in my opinion, I don't bother low balling them.

It's to show them they're overpriced lol.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

It's to show them they're overpriced lol.

It looks like it's sold, so maybe not.

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

It's to show them they're overpriced lol.

Well. You sure showed them and the learned there lesson alright.

[asoriano]

That message alone would be an automatic decline for me.

[rhettyeakley]

Insulting someone while making an offer on their card probably isn't the best way to negotiate.

He has high prices and I'm surprised he sells anything but they're his things and he can ask what he likes.

[Leon]

+1 ... Live and Learn....That seller has actually discounted something for me quite nicely before.

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Insulting someone while making an offer on their card probably isn't the best way to negotiate.

He has high prices and I'm surprised he sells anything but they're his things and he can ask what he likes.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Leon

+1 ... Live and Learn....That seller has actually discounted something for me quite nicely before.

Just did it for me last week. Had a card listed for $1250 and accepted my offer of $800, which I thought was an eminently fair price.

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Insulting someone while making an offer on their card probably isn't the best way to negotiate.

He has high prices and I'm surprised he sells anything but they're his things and he can ask what he likes.

I didn't really have any hopes of him accepting. I hardly look at it as in insult as well. Why someone would shell out that cash for a damaged back is beyond my comprehension.

[Luke]

Yeah, you're not wrong about the price, but it doesn't ever do any good to lead off in a confrontational way like that imo.

[Golfcollector]

Originally Posted by asoriano

That message alone would be an automatic decline for me.

+1