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Old 02-18-2017, 09:48 AM
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I thought this description was funny enough to share. Seller is quoting US Supreme Court and trying to prove his case that his autographs are authentic. Classic PT Barnum.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mantle-Yogi-...IAAOSwWxNYp3n2
I love it when sellers use this garbage... Then I know there is a 99% chance the item is fake without having to look at it.

Standard boilerplate text from the forgery industry playbook. Forensic, court verified, etc etc. Total garbage. Typical Florida Fake seller using #FakeNews.
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Old 02-18-2017, 10:13 AM
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Default Ebay seller Jessmk12

Ebay seller Jessmk12 is a long-time seller of the "Florida" forgeries.

All of the sellers of those "Florida" forgeries spew that same crap.


http://live.autographmagazine.com/fo...mantle-forgery


http://live.autographmagazine.com/fo...all-coa-not-st



http://live.autographmagazine.com/fo...oto-safe-at-ho

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Old 02-18-2017, 10:17 AM
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Ebay seller Jessmk12 is a long-time seller of the "Florida" forgeries.

All of the sellers of those "Florida" forgeries spew that same crap.


http://live.autographmagazine.com/fo...mantle-forgery


http://live.autographmagazine.com/fo...all-coa-not-st



http://live.autographmagazine.com/fo...oto-safe-at-ho

This is the latest "Florida" COA.




PlatinumCollectiblesCOA-1.jpg

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Old 02-18-2017, 10:35 AM
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Same crap different wording.

One important point. You can sure as hell can tell a forged photo by the paper it is written on.:

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Old 02-18-2017, 10:37 AM
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One important point. You can sure as hell can tell a forged photo by the paper it is written on.
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Old 02-18-2017, 11:04 AM
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This is the latest "Florida" COA.
Does this mean GFA has been kicked to the curb as the "forensics" of choice?

After the distributor of this material admitted in an article it was "for display purposes only," kinda makes you wonder if that caused a rift with the company that was issuing "forensic COAs" with a guarantee for all of it.


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Old 02-18-2017, 11:16 AM
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Does this mean GFA has been kicked to the curb as the "forensics" of choice?

After the distributor of this material admitted in an article it was "for display purposes only," kinda makes you wonder if that caused a rift with the company that was issuing "forensic COAs" with a guarantee for all of it.

This is the one that replaced GFA immediately after that.




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Old 02-18-2017, 02:57 PM
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This is the latest "Florida" COA.




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Must be that Platinum is now the new element of choice for the Florida crooks.
Better than gold or silver ,,, you guys do know how to pick your elements.
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Must be that Platinum is now the new element of choice for the Florida crooks.
Better than gold or silver ,,, you guys do know how to pick your elements.
If Ebay wasn't so heavily-populated with the gullible and delusional, those sellers of the "Florida" forgeries would be out of business.

And that Forensic BS. The majority of that garbage is machine-produced and yet Rocchi claims to have forensically examined them.

The newer "Florida" forgeries are hand-signed and they are just as pathetic.
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Old 02-18-2017, 04:24 PM
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This is from the 2016 National in Atlantic City.

Below are photos of the "Florida" forgeries.




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Old 02-18-2017, 05:21 PM
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Yup. Same exact "product" that typically comes with a "forensic" COA from any number of ebay sellers.

What a hobby...
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Old 02-18-2017, 11:02 AM
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I love it when sellers use this garbage... Then I know there is a 99% chance the item is fake without having to look at it.

Standard boilerplate text from the forgery industry playbook. Forensic, court verified, etc etc. Total garbage. Typical Florida Fake seller using #FakeNews.
Just 99%? I think you are giving them way too much credit.

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Old 02-18-2017, 11:08 AM
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Just 99%? I think you are giving them way too much credit.

Tom C
Never say never. There actually is a regular Florida Fake seller who occasionally gets one of those ghastly giant stickers on a low priced authentic item. Salting the mine with a rare authentic item.

He probably thinks that will save him when the authorities finally come calling.
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Old 02-18-2017, 02:52 PM
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Just 99%? I think you are giving them way too much credit.

Tom C
I was just going to "come down" on my friend Steve for the same thing.
Don't be so generous Steve,,, btc is right. 99.8% garbage, though I guess a broken clock is right twice a day.

And btw,,, where do they find forensics who would authenticate something like this?
Help wanted ads in the NY Times?
"Wanted forensic examiners who really have no scruples. Apply at 646-555-1212 for low paying piece work."
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