52 Mantle Vs T206 Cobb

Touch'EmAll · #1 03-03-2017, 04:53 PM

Also consider eye appeal.

A PSA 2.5 to 3 Mantle is getting near the beater class, and toss in poor centering then the card would have poor eye appeal.

Then a 5.5 to 6 Cobb Green - Wow! could actually be a very nice eye pleasing card exhibiting solid coloring, nice focus, well centered, clean boarders, and high end for the issue status as well.

As far as just nice to look at...the Cobb.

conor912 · #2 03-03-2017, 05:10 PM

If I was buying a card strictly for investment, it would be Ruth, all day every day. He is king....hands down.

The argument that Mantle prices will drop once baby boomers die off is silly. One could easily have made the same argument for all the pre-war players, but look where we are.

PhillipAbbott79 · #3 03-03-2017, 05:32 PM

Strictly investment. That is the conversation. Prediction is not required. It is a guess with reasoning. I am curious to hear the reasoning behind your guess given this exact choice, and only this choice, with only this motivation.

Ruth is not on the discussion block and not an option in the poll. It is not about the player. Only about the card.

iwantitiwinit · #4 03-03-2017, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79

Strictly investment. That is the conversation. Prediction is not required. It is a guess with reasoning. I am curious to hear the reasoning behind your guess given this exact choice, and only this choice, with only this motivation.

Ruth is not on the discussion block and not an option in the poll. It is not about the player. Only about the card.

Geez relax. Also, sorry to inform you but prediction is required...To invest is to allocate money (or sometimes another resource, such as time) in the expectation of some benefit in the future.

camlov2 · #5 03-03-2017, 07:00 PM

I am going to be that one guy who picks solar panels. Over time you should be able to get your money back and buy one of the cards anyway, right?

clydepepper · #6 03-03-2017, 07:42 PM

I voted for the Cobb for two reasons:

First, I try not to purchase cards with grades less than EX

Secondly, the '52 Mantle is WAY overpriced!

ty_cobb · #7 03-03-2017, 07:59 PM

Your cost is always jacked for Topps 52, so you have to pay more up front, in my mind. Your return is mitigated by upfront cost. Also T206 collectors, collect different ways. They will do HOF subsets, or team subsets , or you can just pick the 4 poses. There will always be demand for the Cobb.

KendallCat · #8 03-03-2017, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 100backstroke

Also consider eye appeal.

A PSA 2.5 to 3 Mantle is getting near the beater class, and toss in poor centering then the card would have poor eye appeal.

Then a 5.5 to 6 Cobb Green - Wow! could actually be a very nice eye pleasing card exhibiting solid coloring, nice focus, well centered, clean boarders, and high end for the issue status as well.

As far as just nice to look at...the Cobb.

Not all PSA 2.5/3 Mantles are beater class. With the Mantle centering is key and maybe 10% have decent centering and eye appeal. Tons of 5's-7's with 75/25 centering which makes the card not very attractive. BTW - I would prefer my PSA 3 beater over any Cobb 5/6.

ty_cobb · #9 03-03-2017, 08:57 PM

you have a very nice Mantle. undergraded. something to hold on to

MVSNYC · #10 03-03-2017, 10:05 PM

Interesting topic. I have been a "T206 guy" for 25 years, and have owned some pretty cool cards. I've toiled with this very question, the one posed by the OP. Last year I decided to "branch-out" and invest in one (killer) card. I chose a clean, centered 52 Topps Mantle, a grade slightly higher than the OP mentioned. I'm very happy with it. It's incredibly iconic and gives you the chills when holding it. I would LOVE a nice Green Cobb (as I'm a big T206 collector), but, at the end of the day...a 52 Mantle, is a 52 Mantle.

mark evans · #11 03-04-2017, 06:34 AM

I agree 100%. But, at the end of the day, this is pretty subjective stuff: cards, artwork, cars, women....and so on and so forth.

{This was intended as a response to MVSYNC. Sorry.}

irv · #12 03-04-2017, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KendallCat

Not all PSA 2.5/3 Mantles are beater class. With the Mantle centering is key and maybe 10% have decent centering and eye appeal. Tons of 5's-7's with 75/25 centering which makes the card not very attractive. BTW - I would prefer my PSA 3 beater over any Cobb 5/6.

That is an unbelievable 3, imo. Is there something severely wrong with the back or something else we can't see in the scan?

When I first seen it, I was thinking 6-7, not 3.

sterlingfox · #13 03-04-2017, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by irv

That is an unbelievable 3, imo. Is there something severely wrong with the back or something else we can't see in the scan?

When I first seen it, I was thinking 6-7, not 3.

While still extremely visually appealing, I see a faint amount of paper loss on the upper right corner.

MVSNYC · #14 03-04-2017, 07:05 AM

Here's the thing...if we're talking purely for an investment. It's all about supply and demand. Both cards have great demand, but there's a far larger audience for the Mantle, it crosses over outside of the Hobby...Yes there's less green cobbs, but he has a specific niche audience. And this is coming from a passionate T206 collector.

Neal · #15 03-05-2017, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MVSNYC

but, at the end of the day...a 52 Mantle, is a 52 Mantle.

indeed

The 52 Topps Mantle is arguably the face card of the hobby

Republicaninmass · #16 03-05-2017, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal

indeed

The 52 Topps Mantle is arguably the face card of the hobby

Very arguably, as when someone hears I enjoy the hobby, they ask if I've had a t206...Wagner. now its the Same series as the Cobb, but their second question is usually about a 52 mantle.

Over the last 10 years the Mantle has performed better at almost a rate of 2-1

I have skin in both games, I cant help but feel in the current market that the Mantle has really peaked, whereas the Cobb has room to grow.

mark evans · #17 03-04-2017, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KendallCat

Not all PSA 2.5/3 Mantles are beater class. With the Mantle centering is key and maybe 10% have decent centering and eye appeal. Tons of 5's-7's with 75/25 centering which makes the card not very attractive. BTW - I would prefer my PSA 3 beater over any Cobb 5/6.

What a great card. It would have been a perfect card for me (and I suspect many other collectors), but around 20 years ago, when I had more and it went for less.

View Poll Results: Which would you chose and why
PSA 5.5 to PSA 6 Green Cobb	118	49.58%
PSA 2.5 to PSA 3 52 Topps Mantle	105	44.12%
Neither, get solar panels and save money	15	6.30%
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