1933 Goudey Ruth- Questionable Authenticity? Not really...

Michael B · #1 03-21-2017, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman

What's it say on the bat knob?

Adam, I thought everyone knew this one, even a non-baseball card collector like me. It says F**k Face.

pokerplyr80 · #2 03-21-2017, 12:11 PM

I don't see why they have to issue this decision on a flip that looks the exact same as for graded cards. Just return the card in the holder it was submitted in with a letter or something that says could not verify authenticity. The flip with "auth?" creates a sense of ambiguity that sellers such as this are taking advantage of.

Sean · #3 03-21-2017, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael B

Adam, I thought everyone knew this one, even a non-baseball card collector like me. It says F**k Face.

It could be argued that this is the most overpriced card in the hobby:
If the T206 Wagner had been produced in the same quantity as other cards, a Wagner PSA 1 would be worth something near a Cobb red, say $500. By being under produced, it's worth $400,000. That's an increase of 800x.
A common Fleer is worth 1 cent. The Billy Ripken cost me $25, an increase of 2500x.

CollectingAmericasPastime · #4 03-21-2017, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

It could be argued that this is the most overpriced card in the hobby:
If the T206 Wagner had been produced in the same quantity as other cards, a Wagner PSA 1 would be worth something near a Cobb red, say $500. By being under produced, it's worth $400,000. That's an increase of 800x.
A common Fleer is worth 1 cent. The Billy Ripken cost me $25, an increase of 2500x.

The F Face Billy Ripken was not produced in the same quantity as other Fleer cards. The error was caught and pulled. I don't know the exact print run numbers, though.

On the topic of this thread, PSA is literally leaving the door open for con-artists and scammers to rip someone off. Instead of nipping it in the arse with a NO like SGC, they leave it as a grey area "questionable authenticity". I struggle with PSA for multiple reasons, and this adds to my struggle.

bnorth · #5 03-21-2017, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060

The F Face Billy Ripken was not produced in the same quantity as other Fleer cards. The error was caught and pulled. I don't know the exact print run numbers, though.

On the topic of this thread, PSA is literally leaving the door open for con-artists and scammers to rip someone off. Instead of nipping it in the arse with a NO like SGC, they leave it as a grey area "questionable authenticity". I struggle with PSA for multiple reasons, and this adds to my struggle.

The general guess is Fleer printed around 100,000 of the F Face cards. The high end counterfeit shown in the PSA slab and raw has around 15 known copies.

If SGC can straight up call it counterfeit there is no reason PSA can't step up and do the same thing.

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