Hypothetical Ebay Return of Something PSA Says is Fake

Edwolf1963 · #1 03-22-2017, 10:51 PM

I believe in that situation the buyer could press the issue and get the refund since the card was unaltered and being returned in the same condition. Well known that eBay will usually side with the buyer in areas of dispute. Now, if the original holder was cracked out and put in a PSA plastic sleeve with that infamous AUTH? notation – I think the buyer is SOL.

I had a somewhat similar situation a few years back where the seller represented and sold a 1915 Cracker Jack as a 1914. PSA stabbed as a 1915, I never even thought to look at the slab that closely or the back. My bad. I sniped quickly, won, received, started to crack it out (because I thought it could possibly cross to a better grade) and then noticed it was a 1915 from the back of the card. Bitched but lost bcse I had cracked the slab - even though the seller clearly misled. Not exactly your hypothetical situation, but thought it related to some degree.

packs · #2 03-23-2017, 08:41 AM

Just another PSA for everyone that writing "no returns" in an eBay description does not supersede eBay's own return policy, which you agree to when you list your item. I ignore it every time because I know I can return anything I want.

Leon · #3 03-25-2017, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by packs

Just another PSA for everyone that writing "no returns" in an eBay description does not supersede eBay's own return policy, which you agree to when you list your item. I ignore it every time because I know I can return anything I want.

yeap. As long is it isn't what the seller says it is, ebay rules with the buyer...It is like Judge Judy's America......a wonderful place of common sense over technicality.

Jobu · #4 03-25-2017, 12:01 PM

Thanks for the input everyone. I have never bought anything like this (minus one card in an ASA holder that I wanted to matter what it crossed to - it went from something like a 6 to an A, but that was ok with me).

I do see "opportunities" and wonder what would happen in the scenario I outlined, but I also assume that most cards are still in those holders because they were sent to PSA/SGC and returned without being cracked.

nat · #5 03-25-2017, 03:32 PM

What happens when no TPG is involved? Say that a seller says that a raw card is original, but when you put it under the black light it glows like a Christmas tree. If you file a not-as-described complaint, will you win that one?

murphy8276 · #6 03-27-2017, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by nat

What happens when no TPG is involved? Say that a seller says that a raw card is original, but when you put it under the black light it glows like a Christmas tree. If you file a not-as-described complaint, will you win that one?

100% of the time. Just tell ebay it is counterfeit--they don't allow sales of counterfeit cards so they close that case out pretty fast in your favor. "counterfeit" is the loophole to all returns.

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