babe ruth m101-5 blank back $294,000

[oldjudge]

Originally Posted by Jdoggs

Ruth PSA 5 at $276k. With total pop of Ruth rookies under 100 and Ruth being the greatest baseball player of all time, this card is undervalued compared to the thousands of 52 topps mantles.

There are about 105 Ruth rookies slabbed. My guess on the total pop is 150-200.

[Jdoggs]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

There are about 105 Ruth rookies slabbed. My guess on the total pop is 150-200.

Accounting for crossovers the true amount of Ruth rookies slabbed is around 85 most likely.

[uniship]

I agree I think the population is less than 100. That's not much more than the honus Wagner. And it's a tiny fraction of mantle.

And it's widely considered to be THE Babe Ruth rookie card. The card has tons of upside in my opinion.

Owning a Wagner puts you in an elite exclusive collectors fraternity. Same thing for a "babe Ruth rookie".

[Jdoggs]

Originally Posted by uniship

I agree I think the population is less than 100. That's not much more than the honus Wagner. And it's a tiny fraction of mantle.

And it's widely considered to be THE Babe Ruth rookie card. The card has tons of upside in my opinion.

Owning a Wagner puts you in an elite exclusive collectors fraternity. Same thing for a "babe Ruth rookie".

I totally agree my friend!

[oldjudge]

And by the way, the only Ruth rookie is the M101-5s. M101-4s were issued after.

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

And by the way, the only Ruth rookie is the M101-5s. M101-4s were issued after.

Sorry Jay but rookie card status in this hobby does NOT distinguish between early vs. LATER issued cards within the SAME calendar year. M101-4 s were also issued in 1916... they are likewise Ruth rookies.

[Jdoggs]

Originally Posted by Vintageclout

Sorry Jay but rookie card status in this hobby does NOT distinguish between early vs. LATER issued cards within the SAME calendar year. M101-4 s were also issued in 1916... they are likewise Ruth rookies.

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[Baseball Rarities]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

And by the way, the only Ruth rookie is the M101-5s. M101-4s were issued after.

Jay, since Ruth is the one of the few players who has the same number in both sets, how do you know if you definitively have an M101-5?

[oldjudge]

Hi Kevin. If the card has an ad back, in most cases you know whether it was an M101-5 or M101-4 as many ad backs were issued only in one of the two series. Also, on blank backs or ad backs that were issued in both series, you can look at the paper type. The cards that develop browning,most noticeable on the backs, are only M101-5s. For the most part, but not always, a white back will be an M101-4. For me to call a card a rookie of Ruth I would want proof the card was an M101-5. In a case when I wasn't sure I would be conservative and say it wasn't.
Hi Joe-There are no hard and fast rules. This is not accounting. I think when you can definitively say one issue came later, regardless of whether it is the same year or not, it cannot be a rookie. This is my opinion; you are certainly welcome to a different opinion. I can understand why dealers (not you now) would push for as wide a definition as possible, but I don't have to agree with them.

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

There are about 105 Ruth rookies slabbed. My guess on the total pop is 150-200.

And of those 105 Ruth rookies, you can bet at least 15 (if not more) are double counts due to PSA/SGC crossovers not removed from the pop charts! I know of 5/6 myself.....

Joe T.

[Jdoggs]

Originally Posted by Vintageclout

And of those 105 Ruth rookies, you can bet at least 15 (if not more) are double counts due to PSA/SGC crossovers not removed from the pop charts! I know of 5/6 myself.....

Joe T.

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