Team Bat Sets

baseball tourist · #1 05-08-2017, 10:29 PM

I have dabbled in the collection of a 1977 Toronto Blue Jays team bat set. Being its the first season makes it interesting to me and with a roster of non stars makes it somewhat affordable.

There are 21 position players and I have an Ernie Whitt, Jim Mason, Otto Velez, Dave McKay, Doug Ault, Steve Staggs and Al Woods. 14 to go.

perezfan · #2 05-09-2017, 02:25 AM

I just have "The Great Eight" from the 1975-76 Reds.

I have felt no need to go any further with it. Never felt compelled to collect Pitchers' Bats, or guys like Bill Plummer and Merv Rettenmund. Nothing at all against them... just not as meaningful, or on the same plane as the starters.

It all comes down to personal preference, I guess. Plus I had plenty of other ways to part with money at the time.

Dave Grob · #3 05-09-2017, 08:06 AM

Mark,

Interesting that bring up the 1975-1976 Reds. Very popular team set, consistent starters for both years and no shortage of those bats (Not that they are cheap). But what you may be forced to go after really depends on the team.

80% of a 162 game schedule is 130 games. Every one of the �The Great Eight� hit that 80% threshold for both the 1975 and 1976 seasons. But with other clubs, it�s not always so clean.

Consider the 1969 New York Mets, another very popular team set. For those largely recognized as starters for that club, only Cleon Jones and Tommy Agee hit the 80% mark. The 1969 Mets had 11 position players with over 100 games.

Dave Grob

Bpm0014 · #4 05-09-2017, 08:46 AM

1. What team? T206 set.
2. Why you picked it? Love the players associated with the T206 set.
3. Toughest bat of the set (NOT the most expensive)? Most are impossible.
4. Was there one that got away? Recently in REA, Wildfire Schulte went for $13,200 with the juice. Insane!
5. How close are you? I have about 30 with one duplicate (Harry Davis). So not close at all!

Dave Grob · #5 05-09-2017, 08:51 AM

I think we can close the thread. I don't think we are going to find a more interesting or challenging team bat set than the "T206" set.

Dave Grob

ooo-ribay · #6 05-09-2017, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Grob

I think we can close the thread. I don't think we are going to find a more interesting or challenging team bat set than the "T206" set.

Dave Grob

Nah. 1993 SF Giants are more interesting!

Mark · #7 05-10-2017, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Grob

I think we can close the thread. I don't think we are going to find a more interesting or challenging team bat set than the "T206" set.

Dave Grob

What makes Brendan's quest even tougher is that, in the spirit of collecting t206's, he has to get all the different brands and variations of each bat (H&B, Spalding, Stall & Dean Wright & Ditson, etc.). Not to mention the different weights, lengths, and finishes.

Bpm0014 · #8 05-10-2017, 08:54 AM

Hahahahaha. I'm definitely not going for a "master set"....

Mark · #9 05-09-2017, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Grob

Mark,

Interesting that bring up the 1975-1976 Reds. Very popular team set, consistent starters for both years and no shortage of those bats (Not that they are cheap). But what you may be forced to go after really depends on the team.

80% of a 162 game schedule is 130 games. Every one of the �The Great Eight� hit that 80% threshold for both the 1975 and 1976 seasons. But with other clubs, it�s not always so clean.

Consider the 1969 New York Mets, another very popular team set. For those largely recognized as starters for that club, only Cleon Jones and Tommy Agee hit the 80% mark. The 1969 Mets had 11 position players with over 100 games.

Dave Grob

I would usually be OK with the starting lineup, but this would include platoon players (e.g. Clendenon and Kranepool). And when a role player like Al Weis makes an important contribution in a playoff game or world series, then I don't think a set would not be complete without it. For example, I have been going after the 1925 Pirates bats, and I would love to add a Stuffy McInnis to it. He wasn't a regular, but he had a big hit in game 7. But I don't think that bat will ever be available.

jcmtiger · #10 05-09-2017, 11:49 AM

Detroit Tigers World Series Black bats.

Bugsy · #11 05-09-2017, 11:54 AM

The 1924 St. Paul Saints.

I have been working on a Saints collection for a long time now. My initial interest began almost 25 years ago when my father and I found some old ticket stubs of games my grandfather went to in the early 20s. 1924 was particularly interesting because the Saints won the Junior World Series that year.

They are extremely obscure. I have 8 or 9 from the players from the team so far. First of all, it wouldn't surprise me if most of the players on the team didn't even have their own model bats. Secondly, who back in 1920s would have saved broken bats of no-name players? Superstars will always command top dollar, but their must be dozens of Babe Ruth used bats out there for every Bruno Haas bat. Most of my bats survived because they are Hillerich vault bats.

I missed out on two bats so far. Nick Allen and Oscar Roettger. Making it more difficult, many of the Saints played for the 1920s Yankees teams. 12 of the 1927 Yankees played for the Saints. That might sound like a cool historical footnote, but it is a massive pain in the ass when you're a collector.

It is a set that is impossible to complete, but the search is the best part.

Chris

Bugsy · #12 05-09-2017, 11:57 AM

Here is a ball from the 1924 Junior World Series. The scores from the first three games were recorded on the ball.

Lefty Grove was pitching for the Orioles that series.

Dave Grob · #13 05-09-2017, 01:07 PM

I missed out on two bats so far. Nick Allen and Oscar Roettger.

Don't hate me, but I had a Nick Allen bat at one time as part of my 1919 Reds collection. I gifted it to an individual who helped me land a jersey I was after.

Dave Grob

Mark70Z · #14 02-01-2019, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugsy

Here is a ball from the 1924 Junior World Series. The scores from the first three games were recorded on the ball.

Lefty Grove was pitching for the Orioles that series.

I know you guys are talking team bats, but I love that Jr. WS ball...

Of course with all the talk of team bats I wonder why I�ve never even thought about collecting a specific year for an Orioles team; loved all those teams.

baseball tourist · #15 11-27-2018, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by baseball tourist

I have dabbled in the collection of a 1977 Toronto Blue Jays team bat set. Being its the first season makes it interesting to me and with a roster of non stars makes it somewhat affordable.

There are 21 position players and I have an Ernie Whitt, Jim Mason, Otto Velez, Dave McKay, Doug Ault, Steve Staggs and Al Woods. 14 to go.

Just added a nice Bob Bailor. Lucky 13 left!

sphere and ash · #16 11-28-2018, 02:05 PM

I have the 1927 and 1939 Yankees.

The 1927 Yankees I always wanted for display with the “home run batting eyes” images by Charles Conlon. Conlon didn’t photograph the whole team, so I’ve never felt the need to own Mike Gazella or Julian Wera, though if they ever came up for sale, I suppose I would try (as far as I know, there is only one known bat of each). I do own Waite Hoyt, which was a tough bat, but toughest by far was Ben Paschal. Conlon photographed Paschal, so that was a must have.

For the 1939 Yankees, I only have the starting eight hitters, less Gordon. I increased the difficulty by requiring that each bat be from the 1939 labeling period.

baseball tourist · #17 11-28-2018, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sphere and ash

I have the 1927 and 1939 Yankees.

The 1927 Yankees I always wanted for display with the �home run batting eyes� images by Charles Conlon. Conlon didn�t photograph the whole team, so I�ve never felt the need to own Mike Gazella or Julian Wera, though if they ever came up for sale, I suppose I would try (as far as I know, there is only one known bat of each). I do own Waite Hoyt, which was a tough bat, but toughest by far was Ben Paschal. Conlon photographed Paschal, so that was a must have.

For the 1939 Yankees, I only have the starting eight hitters, less Gordon. I increased the difficulty by requiring that each bat be from the 1939 labeling period.

Would love to see some of those bats!

sphere and ash · #18 11-28-2018, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by baseball tourist

Would love to see some of those bats!

This image of the 1939 Yankees is missing Dickey, which I added later. The eight of them hit .297.

sphere and ash · #19 11-28-2018, 04:33 PM

Here are the 1927 Yankees.

See next post for image.

sphere and ash · #20 11-28-2018, 04:42 PM

Here are the 1927 Yankees.

Mark · #21 11-30-2018, 08:02 AM

A wonderful achievement! congratulations. but more, bigger photos would be welcomed!!

Scott Garner · #22 02-01-2019, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sphere and ash

here are the 1927 yankees.

Wow!!

Mark · #23 06-07-2019, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sphere and ash

Here are the 1927 Yankees.

It's been 4 months since anyone has posted here, so I thought I'd chime in with a photo of my 1927 Pirates collection to go along with the amazing 27 Yankees collection posted here last year by Paul. So far, I have the regulars plus one part time player.

Going back to Dave's original post, I picked the Pirates from the 20's partly because bats from the 20's were relatively plentiful back when I started collecting thanks to the Louisville find in the early 90's.

The one that got away? and the one that is tough? Back in 1994, Art Jaffee of Leftfield Collectibles had a Grantham bat for sale, but he was asking $350 for it instead of the $250 he was asking for similar bats. He was unusually firm about the price because he said that Grantham was in the college football hall of fame. I was pretty sure that he was wrong about Grantham being in the football hall, so I thought I'd wait a couple of months and make another offer. Of course, Art sold that bat quickly, and I promised myself I'd buy the next one I saw. That was 25 years ago, and I'm still looking. For now, I have a store model Grantham that has an unusual length and knob, but I still, faithfully, keep looking for a solid pro model.

bobbvc · #24 02-04-2019, 10:19 AM

Saw a lot of them in Spring Training those years, mainly playing the Padres in Yuma. Interesting time period for the A's as well. Their great teams of the early-mid 70's having been gutted by free agency and not yet the competitive "Billy Ball" under manager Billy Martin where they crawled back to respectability.
Some of my favorites- Mike Edwards, Mitchell Page, Wayne Gross, Tony Armas,
Jim Essian, Taylor Duncan.
Also collecting 1969 Padres bats which has morphed into a 1969-1976 collection.

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