1951 Bowman Mantle. Thoughts requested.

[bobbvc]

Originally Posted by JustinD

Agree with Dave,

Definitely not legit.

What are the red flags?

[bobbvc]

Couple different scans for reference

[REGGIE206]

I just bought a 1951 Bowman Mantle RC not too long again (PSA 1), so I've done a lot of research on this card. A few things that raise a flag (to me) is how white the boarders are, the perfect centering, and the color of the back. The coloring on the back is really hard to fake. A real back color ages in a way that is hard to explain. The color is very rarely perfectly even. Here's the back of my card for an example:



With the front of real 1951 Mantle's, the boarders are more gray than white.

Now keep in mind that my reasonings are just "flags", not exact reasons that make it fake.

But that is just my two cents after my research. Shoot, I may be wrong with my assessment. That was the reason I shot for a graded PSA when I was in the hunt.

I hope this helps!

[Stonepony]

Bob, there are many things wrong with the card. I'll address one: The text on the back is way off and doesn't line up at all compared to a legit card. Example- look where the "P" in picture lines up with the copyright logo on yours versus a graded card. Same alignment problems at top. One of many problems.
Dave

[Peter_Spaeth]

A fake that reproduced the vertical print line so often seen on this card?

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by bobbvc

What are the red flags?

Color is off, paper is off and the print quality makes it able to be flagged as a copy in seconds. Look at the typeface clarity of the other one posted for comparison, it will be very easy to notice.

[bobbvc]

Thanks all, for the info, keep 'em coming. I will pass this along.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bobbvc

Thanks all, for the info, keep 'em coming. I will pass this along.

What other cards did she inherit from her ex-bf. 1954 Topps Mantle or 1948 Leaf Joe Jackson?

[bobbvc]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

What other cards did she inherit from her ex-bf. 1954 Topps Mantle or 1948 Leaf Joe Jackson?

No others. I'm not absolutely sure inherit was the right phrasing on my part anyway. My main point was it was acquired about 25 years ago just to set a timeline. So, not a recent fake for what that's worth.

[bobbvc]

And in the mean time I found my one 1951 Bowman card (Jerry Coleman) and did notice some differences. Thanks again for the info.

[Volod]

The biggest red flag on the backside is the skewed lettering of "Baseball." Take a look at your card juxtaposed against a genuine.