EBay Best Offer Game Playing

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Very few of us have cards that others don't. If you want to sell something don't yank my chain. Chances are someone else is selling the same card in the same condition or will be shortly.

Or just maybe the person selling the card does not do it for a living and is not logged into eBay 24/7.

I know I sometime sell on eBay and only check stuff every few days. I sometimes use the Make Offer option but unfortunately I get those idiots that want to make a low offer then expect me to waste my time negotiating instead of just offering their best price to begin with.

Buyers are just like cards another one will come buy shortly.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Since when is there anything wrong with a negotiating strategy, particularly on an expensive item? If you need instant gratification hit the BIN, otherwise be patient. Geez.

[calvindog]

Not everyone obsesses over a $100 card or even a $10,000 card when selling it. Sometimes people are just really busy. I don't think you should read much into it.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Not everyone obsesses over a $100 card or even a $10,000 card when selling it. Sometimes people are just really busy. I don't think you should read much into it.

I realize people are busy, but if you are selling a lot of cards, and are not an occasional seller, I'm guessing this is an important source of income to you, and you pay more than passing attention to an item that's listed for sale for a few thousand dollars.

As far as a negotiating strategy, sure that's fine. I'm a busy guy too, and I don't have two days to wait for you to get off your touchas to respond.

And I'm talking about a card that has been listed for many months.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I realize people are busy, but if you are selling a lot of cards, and are not an occasional seller, I'm guessing this is an important source of income to you, and you pay more than passing attention to an item that's listed for sale for a few thousand dollars.

As far as a negotiating strategy, sure that's fine. I'm a busy guy too, and I don't have two days to wait for you to get off your touchas to respond.

And I'm talking about a card that has been listed for many months.

So retract your offer and move on, why get worked up about it? Bitching about it is as wasteful as bitching about high BINs.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So retract your offer and move on, why get worked up about it? Bitching about it is as wasteful as bitching about high BINs.

Not really bitching, just wondering why someone would employ that as a deliberate strategy.

Sort of like saying to someone who enters you store "I will be right with you." Sure, someone can decide for some reason that they don't care to do it, but curious to me why they would.

[mintacular]

I think you are projecting what you would do. At the end of the day, there is a policy and that is what you should follow. The seller has 48 hours? to respond or whatever, if it takes them to that point to counter, than so be it...

[scooter729]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Not really bitching, just wondering why someone would employ that as a deliberate strategy.

Ok, I will bite. Say the item is listed at $3,000, and you offered $2,500. Maybe the seller is willing to accept that, but before he accepts, he is waiting for something close to 48 hours to see if an offer higher than $2,500 comes in. If so, great and he goes with that. If not, he hits accept on yours before it expires.

What's wrong with that?

[Gradedcardman]

I agree. Yea I get an email but I get over a hundred a day and have a life outside of cards and work. I try to respond quickly but if the person makes it personal then they can retract or buy it now. I really don't care to be honest. Just like there's always another card there always another buyer.


=calvindog;1664117]Not everyone obsesses over a $100 card or even a $10,000 card when selling it. Sometimes people are just really busy. I don't think you should read much into it.[/QUOTE]

[Stonepony]

Steve....come on...

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=219656
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=228798
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=23185
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=233940
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=232511
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=235406
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=238638

Here's a very close paraphrase of a conversation on card on EBay I very much wanted. It was listed at $950 and I feel it's a $500-$600 card.
Me- Hi, I'm very interested in this card. Would you take $650? That's as high as I can go. Thanks for considering.
Seller- Sorry Dave I can't go that low
Me- ok, thank you
Seller- You're welcome

No one flipping out, ranting or wadding up panties for Christ sake.

[Luke]

I agree with what everyone else is saying. My first thought was if you're really offering $1000 on a card listed at $3000, the seller might see it, chuckle or sigh and then quickly forget about it.

I don't use "best offer" when I sell on ebay, but I'll sometimes get an ebay message with someone asking me if I can take $150 for a card I have listed at $300. I get these alerts right away and often I am in line at a store or something when I see them. For an offer like that, I'm not going to drop everything and reply "no thanks" to them, so it will sit until I'm at home on my desktop and see it again.

[steve B]

I think the internet in general has given positive reinforcement to a lot of impatience.

Steve B

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

Steve....come on...

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=219656
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=228798
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=23185
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=233940
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=232511
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=235406
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=238638

Here's a very close paraphrase of a conversation on card on EBay I very much wanted. It was listed at $950 and I feel it's a $500-$600 card.
Me- Hi, I'm very interested in this card. Would you take $650? That's as high as I can go. Thanks for considering.
Seller- Sorry Dave I can't go that low
Me- ok, thank you
Seller- You're welcome

No one flipping out, ranting or wadding up panties for Christ sake.

Agreed. This isn't difficult, but people sure can try to make it seem so.

[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

Steve....come on...

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=219656
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=228798
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=23185
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=233940
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=232511
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=235406
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=238638

Here's a very close paraphrase of a conversation on card on EBay I very much wanted. It was listed at $950 and I feel it's a $500-$600 card.
Me- Hi, I'm very interested in this card. Would you take $650? That's as high as I can go. Thanks for considering.
Seller- Sorry Dave I can't go that low
Me- ok, thank you
Seller- You're welcome

No one flipping out, ranting or wadding up panties for Christ sake.

awesome post

[JasonD08]

If you make a stupid lowball offer I will not even respond. People that are reasonable get a reasonable response. Simple. I buy and sell and treat respect with respect. If you do not like it you can always move on. I treat my purchasing the same way. If a seller is grossly overpriced and will not deal I simply move on without bitching about it.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Or just maybe the person selling the card does not do it for a living and is not logged into eBay 24/7.

I know I sometime sell on eBay and only check stuff every few days. I sometimes use the Make Offer option but unfortunately I get those idiots that want to make a low offer then expect me to waste my time negotiating instead of just offering their best price to begin with.

Buyers are just like cards another one will come buy shortly.

If someone makes an offer on your item you get an email. Do you know a lot of people who don't check their emails for a few days? Other than my 82 year old mother I don't.

[Snapolit1]

I guess my point is is, if its a negotiating strategy, I think it's a crappy one. I am a not infrequent seller and a frequent buyer. When I list something for sale I actually want to sell it. And I'm happy when a potential bidder emerges. I engage them pretty quickly and if I am lucky enough to have competing bidders I am very happy. Maybe I'm old school but I feel as seller that I owe my potential buyer a relatively quick response either way. Can't believe it would take me more than a day to reject or make a counter offer.

If the seller is unable to take a few seconds to respond in a day because of some other situation that is more urgent that's understandable.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

If someone makes an offer on your item you get an email. Do you know a lot of people who don't check their emails for a few days? Other than my 82 year old mother I don't.

Add me to that list with your 82 year old mother.

[Snapolit1]

OK, added. I now know 2.

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

If someone makes an offer on your item you get an email. Do you know a lot of people who don't check their emails for a few days? Other than my 82 year old mother I don't.

There are lots of very serious dead spots in the middle states, and cell phones break.

There are lots of reasons why people don't respond for a few days. People are getting ready for summer, going to graduations, planning parties, birthdays, vacations, etc.

People do not always work standard business hours and may be dead asleep or work double shifts.

Some people just don't view it as super important, and most email systems now have some sort of lag or delay.

Personally my wife praises my ability to not work on a computer, when I am actually capable of doing so.

[savedfrommyspokes]

My response time on best offers depends on two things.....how recently the item was listed, and the offer price as compared to others.

First, if the item was listed in the past few days (up to a week) and there is a lot of activity around the item, I typically do wait the full 48 hours if I like the buyers offer to see if there is not another offer.

Second, if I have a first offer out, and the price on a second offer is in my acceptance range but lower than the first, I will likely wait to see what happens with the first.

Either way, if I am not responding to an offer immediately, it is because it is a reasonable one .... if an offer is not in my range, I would either decline if it was super low or counter with my price.