19th Century Detroit Eye Candy

[pro9]

Joe and Jay....thanks for posting all these cabinets. Fantastic!!!

[Joe_G.]

Round 3 shifts to game in action photos.

Here is an interesting group of 5 images from same game at Detroit's Recreation Park. A couple of these images were previously known from the Detroit News archives and labeled as being from July 4th, 1887, however, the Detroit Historical Society has records suggesting it might be a home game from 1886. The Detroit pitcher would be southpaw Lady Baldwin who beat Boston 7-3 on July 4th 1887 or could have easily been captured in 1886 (Baldwin being league leader at 42-13).

First three images show the visiting team at bat. Neat to study position of catcher, umpire, baseline captain, defense, Detroit's bench, base runners, etc. Looks like visiting team is scoring some runs.

The last two pictures show Detroit at bat, perhaps capturing moments before and after a three run homer (something that didn't occur on July 4th, 1887 game).

The images provide a rare and provide interesting view of 1880s baseball, game and stadium.

[pro9]

Joe, it looks like the players bench is on the field as there were no dugouts. When did dugouts come into use? Could you catch a foul ball in the area behind the line defining where the players could sit?

[SAllen2556]

Wow. Really cool stuff. That poster from 1887 is priceless. I have subscription to the Free Press archives and here's a blurb from the July 4th, 1887 game. The photos don't show an overflow crowd in the outfield. No mention of an overflow crowd in the July 4th, 1886 story, however. Note the very odd rule of a ball hit into the crowd.

Detroit_Free_Press_Tue__Jul_5__1887_.jpg

[insidethewrapper]

The white socks for Detroit means 1887 , right ? Someone needs to identify the opposing team.

[Joe_G.]

Originally Posted by pro9

Joe, it looks like the players bench is on the field as there were no dugouts. When did dugouts come into use? Could you catch a foul ball in the area behind the line defining where the players could sit?

I'm not certain on the rule during late 1880s but suspect anything a player could reach and catch on the fly would count as an out. It could get interesting as you approach the opposing team's bench.

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

The white socks for Detroit means 1887 , right ? Someone needs to identify the opposing team.

Hello Mike, the home jerseys in 1886, 1887, and 1888 had white stockings. The 1886 Tomlinson cabinets were with the road uniforms (red socks and red belt). Craig Brown has accumulated a wealth of information on team uniforms by year, an endeavor I've tried to contribute to, check it out: http://www.threadsofourgame.com/category/1886-1890/#

Originally Posted by SAllen2556

Wow. Really cool stuff. That poster from 1887 is priceless. I have subscription to the Free Press archives and here's a blurb from the July 4th, 1887 game. The photos don't show an overflow crowd in the outfield. No mention of an overflow crowd in the July 4th, 1886 story, however. Note the very odd rule of a ball hit into the crowd.

Agreed Scott, the poster is impressive, hope more copies surface.

I have two Detroit game-in-progress images in my collection. The first one is an imperial cabinet from 1886, a home game against Chicago, in which Detroit was dressed in an special all white suit. This game featured a crowd of over 10,000 fans and they roped off the outfield.

I also have a large 1888 negative of a Detroit game in Philadelphia. I really enjoy the game-in-progress images. The following is a digital sepia image created from the negative.

The Detroit Historical Society images could be 1886 or 1887 (or other), I hope to narrow it down with a little more research.

[Joe_G.]

A few more items of interest from the Detroit Historical Society . . .

. . . 1883 Ticket Book (two tickets inside)

. . . 2 Shares of Detroit Wolverine Stock

. . . and a couple more Tomlinson cabinets

. . . A 1908 photo of Detroit Athletic Club baseball team with an aging Sam Thompson (active player) and his dear friend Charlie Bennett near center