Helmar Discussion and Debate Here

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by sirraffles

I understand but I'd guess that you've never actually held one of our cards in you hands. Maybe you'd be surprised. I'd humbly suggest that a great part of the reason we've had success is because collectors do feel that we provide that spark.

My pet peeve with these cards is that whoever is selling them keeps listing them in the wrong categories on eBay. I am sick of wading through hundreds of BS listings that don't match the category in which I am interested. Some moron keeps listing hundreds of these 'fantasy' or 'Broder' or 'unlicensed' or whatever baseball cards in the boxing category. It has become such a PITA that I have started reporting them to eBay (for all the good that will do).

[sirraffles]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

My pet peeve with these cards is that whoever is selling them keeps listing them in the wrong categories on eBay. I am sick of wading through hundreds of BS listings that don't match the category in which I am interested. Some moron keeps listing hundreds of these 'fantasy' or 'Broder' or 'unlicensed' or whatever baseball cards in the boxing category. It has become such a PITA that I have started reporting them to eBay (for all the good that will do).

Not us, my friend. Not sure who you are referring to.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by sirraffles

Not us, my friend. Not sure who you are referring to.

Some cockroach who posts under the name "oak-vault". He posts these stupid cards with pennies in them, fake zeenuts, and lately a ton of Helmar stamp cards (so forgive the confusion).



it appears that my complaints are working as most of the junk has been removed from the category.

As for these tribute cards or whatever, I buy them from time to time, primarily when they depict a boxer not on other cards at the time



and I've bid on some of the fantasy cards of the sort under discussion here, so I have no inherent bias against them, just a dislike for wasting my time on them when they are misclassified.

[Leon]

+1 It would be nice if ebay cracked down on the true junk.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Some cockroach who posts under the name "oak-vault". He posts these stupid cards with pennies in them, fake zeenuts, and lately a ton of Helmar stamp cards (so forgive the confusion).



it appears that my complaints are working as most of the junk has been removed from the category.

As for these tribute cards or whatever, I buy them from time to time, primarily when they depict a boxer not on other cards at the time



and I've bid on some of the fantasy cards of the sort under discussion here, so I have no inherent bias against them, just a dislike for wasting my time on them when they are misclassified.

[sirraffles]

Originally Posted by Leon

+1 It would be nice if ebay cracked down on the true junk.

Not everyone shares the same eye. Probably better to tailor searches to taste.

[Leon]

I agree, we all have a different eye for different things. No argument there. But, Eye or not it would be nice to have an "originals only" category for those of us that would prefer it.

Originally Posted by sirraffles

Not everyone shares the same eye. Probably better to tailor searches to taste.

[ty_cobb]

Im usually an 'originals only collector , but I've seen the Helmar cards with some different art, and I can see the two perspectives of the debate. I consider the cards more of an 'art piece' than a card, but thats just me. I do have a a Helmar Gandil and he resides by an original W series Jackson in my display