Show only your pre-war full unopened tobacco-cigarette packs

canjond · #1 06-07-2017, 08:31 PM

Here's a few.

tedzan · #2 06-07-2017, 09:09 PM

Here's a full pack of 10 cigarettes. Note that each cigarette in it is labelled American Beauty.

Thanks Jon....I acquired this pack from you many years ago.

TED Z
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jerrys · #3 06-07-2017, 10:25 PM

Hi Jon,

The Lone Jack and the Tolstoi are full unopened?

Are any of your Creole Cigarette packs unopened?

I'm not able to access your website.

canjond · #4 06-08-2017, 12:17 AM

Yes on both (full with contents). The Lone Jack has a flower card inside.

jerrys · #5 06-08-2017, 08:44 AM

Thanks Jon - your packs are undoubtedly unique items. In viewing your website - I noticed the 1887 Buchner Gold Coin Tobacco tin you show may not be correct. The paper Gold Coin pack I showed in my article last year may be more likely.

I was attempting to make a population report of vintage unopened tobacco packs - even the issues without the card inserts. Hope to induce contributions here.

canjond · #6 06-09-2017, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jerrys

Thanks Jon - your packs are undoubtedly unique items. In viewing your website - I noticed the 1887 Buchner Gold Coin Tobacco tin you show may not be correct. The paper Gold Coin pack I showed in my article last year may be more likely.

I was attempting to make a population report of vintage unopened tobacco packs - even the issues without the card inserts. Hope to induce contributions here.

Jerry - I have never seen a paper wrapper or pack, but have seen them depicted on the advertisements. They almost appear to be more "box like". The BGC is the closest I've ever come. I know have 2 different (a black and purple version).

canjond · #7 06-09-2017, 10:28 AM

Here are 2 packs that had cards pulled from them, both mistakenly (and both turned out to be non-sports)!

Jobu · #8 06-08-2017, 01:32 PM

Wow Jon, I love the Kotton and Mino! I lived in New Orleans for a decade and the odds of those paper packs surviving humidity, hurricanes, and termites is minuscule. Are those one of a kind?

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Originally Posted by canjond

Here's a few.

Bpm0014 · #9 06-08-2017, 02:53 PM

Has anyone ever pulled a baseball card from a tobacco pack? The Obak above.....was that pulled from the pack? I'm just curious as to how these cards survived...

packs · #10 06-08-2017, 03:05 PM

I think cards would have been in some kind of slide. I don't think the cards were loose in the pack.

Jobu · #11 06-08-2017, 03:13 PM

Given the amount of tobacco on them it seems like Polar Bears might have been naked in the packs.

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Originally Posted by packs

I think cards would have been in some kind of slide. I don't think the cards were loose in the pack.

Cerberus · #12 06-10-2017, 07:30 PM

Enjoy:

Joe_G. · #13 06-11-2017, 07:52 AM

Hello Jerry, Jon, et al.

Here are two more 19th century packs but neither contain a card.

The SF Hess Gold Clip pre-dates the industry wide migration to slide & shell packs that occurred in 1886-1887. It has an 1883 tax stamp and the overprint is very light. A friend has a sister pack to mine and is able to read the overprint as June 1886. This was the most popular way to package cigarettes prior to slide and shell, 10 cigarettes rolled in a paper pack in an arrangement of three rows of 3, then 4, and another 3 giving a near round shape.

The second pack is one you are likely aware of, from Scott Hassel's 1995 warehouse find of a near full carton (18 of possible 20 packs). Each pack was mint and included all the original contents but no card. A coupon was inserted offering a book for 50 coupons (note the coupon states "Having decided to discontinue packing photographs with our cigarettes we will instead of these, extend to our patrons their choice of a good collection of well selected books.").

I also have a pack of SF Hess Creole with original cigarettes but the card and coupon are missing.

canjond · #14 06-08-2017, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bpm0014

Has anyone ever pulled a baseball card from a tobacco pack? The Obak above.....was that pulled from the pack? I'm just curious as to how these cards survived...

The Obak was pulled from the pack. it was against the slide. Also, I've pulled (mistakenly!) a non-sports card from a Virginia Brights pack. That card was against the slide and wrapped in a coupon such that it was near mint.

Leon · #15 06-08-2017, 10:01 PM

I* think they came from my collection and I have never seen any others like them...I don't know if Jon has.

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Originally Posted by Jobu

Wow Jon, I love the Kotton and Mino! I lived in New Orleans for a decade and the odds of those paper packs surviving humidity, hurricanes, and termites is minuscule. Are those one of a kind?

vintagesportscollector · #16 06-08-2017, 11:56 PM

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canjond · #17 06-09-2017, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon

I* think they came from my collection and I have never seen any others like them...I don't know if Jon has.

Yes - these were Leon's. I have never seen others that appear period. I have seen some late-192/30s cigarette boxes, but the style of pack are different.

The later ones can be seen here:

http://baseballandtobacco.com/t216.htm

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