Topps Heritage

ALR-bishop · #1 06-08-2017, 08:13 AM

You would think from this post that Bob is an optimist but my experience with him is to the contrary.

Peter_Spaeth · #2 06-08-2017, 11:35 AM

I think they are a good choice if you want to own some modern players but don't like all the super duper refractor chrome emerald diamond prism stuff. I can't imagine, though, preferring them to the originals.

ALR-bishop · #3 06-08-2017, 11:57 AM

I will confess I have not pitched any of my 1952 to 1967 sets in favor of the their Heritage counterparts. But I do like the Heritage sets and concept....at least through 1972.... if I last that long.

mikemb · #4 06-08-2017, 12:51 PM

At first, I really liked the heritage sets. Got the 1956 and put together the 1959 card sets. Thought I would get 1965 to 1969 Heritage sets, as the originals were at the height of my childhood collecting years (age 8 to 12).

But, got the 1965 set complete and put in in a binder by teams, in the same order as my original 1965 set, but did not really enjoy the set. I think it was a combination of both the cost to get the high numbers and just not following the current players as closely as I once did.

Have only bought a pack or two each year since.

Mike

Rich Klein · #5 06-08-2017, 01:07 PM

I'm a Heritage fan but have not liked many of the changes of recent years

1) The short prints used to be a mix of commons and stars, now it's almost all better players. I don't like that change

2) There has been a growth in the "manufactured" scarcities and variations. I'd rather the set stay true to the original flavors rather than all these confusing new variations. Any time I need to pull up a Collectors Connection page with their images to check what should be a simple set, I get a huge headache.

3) The sets are too short now at 500 cards. To match the world they are copying, the base sets should be 600 cards for the next 10 years or so. I don't see the need for the 787 card set but I'm better off with a 600 card set.

4) Keep in simple and we'll all enjoy Heritage much more. What made the early Heritage sets such hits was their simplicity. Heritage is not in Kansas anymore.

Rich

ALR-bishop · #6 06-08-2017, 01:25 PM

I agree completely with your point 2 Rich. Through 2010 my sets include all the manufactured variations. Starting in 2011 the number ( green tint/ blue tint/ red tint and poses and color swaps ) or scarcity caused me to drop that pursuit.

Maybe there should be a Topps Heritage Total Baseball set with 900 cards

rats60 · #7 06-09-2017, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

I'm a Heritage fan but have not liked many of the changes of recent years

1) The short prints used to be a mix of commons and stars, now it's almost all better players. I don't like that change

2) There has been a growth in the "manufactured" scarcities and variations. I'd rather the set stay true to the original flavors rather than all these confusing new variations. Any time I need to pull up a Collectors Connection page with their images to check what should be a simple set, I get a huge headache.

3) The sets are too short now at 500 cards. To match the world they are copying, the base sets should be 600 cards for the next 10 years or so. I don't see the need for the 787 card set but I'm better off with a 600 card set.

4) Keep in simple and we'll all enjoy Heritage much more. What made the early Heritage sets such hits was their simplicity. Heritage is not in Kansas anymore.

Rich

#2 is the reason that I stopped doing them. I did the sets through 2014, but the gum back damaged cards in addition to action, color swap, throwback, etc. was just too much.

ALR-bishop · #8 06-09-2017, 08:24 AM

I assume the Heritage line has been profitable for them. Do you think it's popularity is based on nostalgia of those that collected their prior counterparts, folks who did not collect the older sets but wish they had, or new collectors who just like them better than the base sets ? Or some combination ?

Is there a point at which the shine wears off for such reproduction designs for the market...and if so will it be in 2050 for Bob, or 1972 for me

Linuxabuser · #9 06-18-2017, 09:04 PM

I am doing 2001 - 2012 Topps Heritage only, no Bowman.

Trying to do all chromes, SPs, inserts and SSPs. Scans here: Link dead.

The 2011 Heritage tint set has been my favorite so far; I'm a little over halfway done with it.

Update: The 2011 Heritage Tint set is complete.

clydepepper · #10 06-09-2017, 07:43 PM

New images attached to already accepted designs. Love 'em!

Griffins · #11 06-10-2017, 01:56 AM

I was really looking forward to the '67 Heritage set, but like Al was disappointed. The original '67 set is my 2nd favorite post war design (after '53 Bowman) but Heritage didn't keep the same standards. The images are a bit blown out, muddy, or just off. This years set was really well done, and the printing in the original '69 set is so bad Heritage can only be an improvement.
I've done every year since inception, but will probably call it done after '72 as well. Really looking forward to the '70 design and especially '71, as those were the first sets I collected as a kid.

ALR-bishop · #12 06-10-2017, 04:19 PM

Jeff- now I remember.... what Anthony said

Rich Klein · #13 06-12-2017, 01:41 PM

As to point #2 -- there are like six different versions of each 2017 Topps Heritage card from base to color swap to gum stained and much much more.

I would not want to venture a true master set today and that's BEFORE the autographs, relics, etc.

Rich

Jantz · #14 06-13-2017, 12:38 PM

I like Heritage, but since I don't collect post war cards, I don't have the vintage counterparts.

With that said, I've opened a lot of 2017 Heritage. If any board member is looking for a certain card or needs a few cards to finish a set. Feel free to PM me.

Now lets get these questions answered real quick though.

Yes - I have Judge & Benintendi rookie cards.

No - I am not looking to sell them for 10% of what they are selling for online.

Flippers need not inquire. Sounds harsh, but you're just wasting our time trying to buy them from me for $1 apiece.

Jantz

ALR-bishop · #15 06-13-2017, 02:15 PM

The offer was not meant for you. It was obviously meant for the rest of you.

tjenkins · #16 06-19-2017, 07:44 AM

I started buying packs in 1968 when I was 5 yrs old. I loved the Topps set then and equally like the the 2017 Topps Heritage counterpart. I can't say I like one better than the other with the exception of the Real One Autos the come with the current Heritage. 1968 will always hold a special place in my heart, so this year's Heritage brought back a bunch of collecting memories.

carney22 · #17 08-19-2018, 05:12 PM

Al and Troy, I could not agree more with you about the 2016 "'67" Heritage set . . . such a major disappointment, considering that I love the Heritage concept and the 1967 Topps set is my all-time favorite. For years, I was looking forward to the Heritage version, but when it arrived it fell flat. The glossy quality of the card front was one of the hallmarks of the '67 set, but the Heritage version was dull and flat. No checklists with disembodied heads. Lousy/lazy versions of combo cards. Nothing clicked for me at all.

The truth is, by 2016, Topps had been "mailing it in" for years on the Heritage line. It didn't start out that way. Remember the 1952 Heritage set, with the same number of cards as the original, with the short print cards being the same numbers as the second series of the original? Or how Topps would sometimes try to parallel a distinctive card from the original with one from the Heritage set, like the 1958 Whammy Douglas/Heritage Boone Logan cards?

They don't do any of that any more. It's all formula, the same number of cards in the set, the same insert sets. And what about the combo cards? Is there now a law that two players aren't allowed to come together in a posed card? The 1967 set had the best combo cards ever, but all the Heritage version could manage was "accidental combos," action shots that just happened to have two people in them.

That rant aside, I will say that Topps has rebounded nicely. I think the "68" Heritage set actually looks better than the original. Same for the "69" Heritage this year. Maybe this is a sign of better things to come . . .

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