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Old 06-09-2017, 02:02 AM
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Looks like it never had tassels. Condition looks great... and the bend is not a big deal, but it can easily be ironed out if it bothers you.

Very easy process... just iron with some mild steam from the reverse side. DO NOT iron the front side. Use a medium heat setting and keep the iron moving. Do not leave the iron in one spot for more than a couple of seconds.

This crease should come out with very little effort. Again...

Do NOT iron the front side
Do NOT use high heat
DO keep the iron moving

Best of luck.... this one is easy in the scheme of things
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Old 06-09-2017, 12:41 PM
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The next test...1960's AFL New York Jets. Look away Mike.

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I'll throw a prediction out there...

I am guessing this one turns our GREAT! (How's that for applying some pressure?)
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I'll throw a prediction out there...

I am guessing this one turns our GREAT! (How's that for applying some pressure?)
No pressure.




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One thing I noticed is that the pennants get whiter over time. I see an immediate change as soon as I spray the bleach on, which I'm pleased with. But then I let the pennants air dry for a couple days and they continue to get whiter. The pictures of the Jets pennant were taken about an hour after I rinsed it. I suspect that it will look even better in a couple days.
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Toying with bleaching the spine on the Namath Jets pennant...or maybe just replacing with a nice white one. Not sure.

The Rams is older and paint feels raised. Might be a mistake but I bought it for the sole purpose of trying.

New Jersey Giants...Would love to clean up. But it's 70's era which I bombed with last time.

Broncos...I feel good about my chances.

Dolphins...Not too worried.

Tittle Giants...Cautious but bought it to try. I suspect similar results to the other Tittle I have.

Allie's Dream...Has a lot to gain by cleaning...But I'm unsure of how it will hold up. Different material than others from the 1960's, which I'm assuming this is from as he coached there from 61 to 68. Just noticed...the misspelling of "Alie" on the pennant. I'm sure that makes it even more rare and valuable.
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That is a beautiful pennant. Please, Id love to see pics of it all cleaned up. That and the Namath. those are some gorgeous pennants.

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That is a beautiful pennant. Please, Id love to see pics of it all cleaned up. That and the Namath. those are some gorgeous pennants.

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I posted some after photos a couple pages back. In terms of cleaning up and whiteness it came out great. But the material feels somewhat thinner now and that has me rethinking trying any other "AFL" pennants. Maybe I need to dilute the bleach some.

As for the Namath...I'm not sure if I should remove the spine and bleach it separately, or leave it on and try to block with painters tape. That would be less hassle, but way more risk.
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Regarding the Namath, there is definite risk both ways. Removing the spine is pretty drastic, given it will likely have two sets of stitching holes/rows, when completed. And how can you be sure that replicating the original sewing style is even possible? To me, that's a more severe alteration than just a cleaning.

It seems safer to thoroughly tape off the body of the pennant, and then do the bleaching with pennant hanging vertically.... but with the pointed side UP (so any excess bleach would drip/bleed off the spine and away from the pennant). In case it drips, you can place a bucket or newspapers below... or do it over a bath tub or sink.

Just my 2 cents... GOOD LUCK, if you attempt it.

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Looks like it never had tassels. Condition looks great... and the bend is not a big deal, but it can easily be ironed out if it bothers you.

Very easy process... just iron with some mild steam from the reverse side. DO NOT iron the front side. Use a medium heat setting and keep the iron moving. Do not leave the iron in one spot for more than a couple of seconds.

This crease should come out with very little effort. Again...

Do NOT iron the front side
Do NOT use high heat
DO keep the iron moving

Best of luck.... this one is easy in the scheme of things
Thank you for the advice!

Mike
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No problem!

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Thanks for the compliments.

Mark, I found the same pics when i was originally was researching the pennant. The fact that no residual glue/paper is in the box should of been another clue that the Aaron side was recycled.

Really was hoping for at least a Lutzke LOL. Fun way to value something!

Any of you pennant guys have some early endorsed horsehide for trade?
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It cracks me up that Mark, who is apprehensive to experiment on his own pennants, is right there with advice! I will say, for the era Mark collects, I doubt he has many white pennants.

Rob - I am thrilled that you have jumped in with both feet. Sorry about the failures but I think the successes far outweigh them. Here's what you might use on the Namath pennant. The bleach is more of a gel.
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It cracks me up that Mark, who is apprehensive to experiment on his own pennants, is right there with advice! I will say, for the era Mark collects, I doubt he has many white pennants.

Rob - I am thrilled that you have jumped in with both feet. Sorry about the failures but I think the successes far outweigh them. Here's what you might use on the Namath pennant. The bleach is more of a gel.
That's a great idea Rob. Thanks!

Aside from the Redskins pennant...which I have multiple of...just picked up another as part of a lot as a matter of fact...and which was pretty beat already...I consider them all to be success stories, compared to where they were in the "before" photos.

I experimented on a cheap 70's Yankees pennant last night. It had a lot of red graphics and lettering and true to form, ran like crazy. But I discovered the right course of action is to apply more water, not less. I just kept spraying until the water ran clear. The running paint just flows away and doesn't stain the pennant. It seems the red paint degrades over time, more so than other colors and you need to wash away that dead layer until it stops bleeding. To soon to say it's a perfect solution but it worked on this one.
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That's a great idea Rob. Thanks!

Aside from the Redskins pennant...which I have multiple of...just picked up another as part of a lot as a matter of fact...and which was pretty beat already...I consider them all to be success stories, compared to where they were in the "before" photos.

I experimented on a cheap 70's Yankees pennant last night. It had a lot of red graphics and lettering and true to form, ran like crazy. But I discovered the right course of action is to apply more water, not less. I just kept spraying until the water ran clear. The running paint just flows away and doesn't stain the pennant. It seems the red paint degrades over time, more so than other colors and you need to wash away that dead layer until it stops bleeding. To soon to say it's a perfect solution but it worked on this one.
Would happen to have a pic of the Yankees pennant? I would like to compare it to the one I have and see if I can clean it up.

Thanks,

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[QUOTE=ooo-ribay;1670522]It cracks me up that Mark, who is apprehensive to experiment on his own pennants, is right there with advice! I will say, for the era Mark collects, I doubt he has many white pennants.

Touche, Rob...

The few white ones I do have were all purchased in very clean condition. So I suppose I usually pay too much.

But if I win a cool one that closes on ebay today, I will jump into this endeavor with both feet. It is/was white, it is soiled, and it has all-red graphics (yikes). So it will be an interesting test, if I can just win it. If not for this thread (and both Robs' advice), I would've just watched it without bidding. It's a rare variation for a sixties pennant... really hoping the compromised condition keeps the price down!

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