Not to get back to Kaepernick , but

Cliff Bowman · #1 06-19-2017, 09:30 AM

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As the 2016 election showed, America has nothing against divisive statements as long as they're made by a white guy.

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Tell that to Curt Schilling.

CollectingAmericasPastime · #2 06-19-2017, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Tell that to Curt Schilling.

And Mike Ditka.

Which actually brings up an interesting comparison. For all of you complaining that Kaep is being punished for exercising his Freedom of Speech, why aren't you out campaigning for Schilling or Ditka to get their jobs back at ESPN? They were each fired by ESPN for exercising their Freedom of Speech.

packs · #3 06-19-2017, 02:26 PM

I think you're reaching when you compare Kaepernick to Curt Schilling. What could they possibly have in common? Schilling denies that racism exists in a city where Tom Yawkey was forced to allow an African American player to play....in 1959. What is your common thread between them other than they're two people who said things?

CollectingAmericasPastime · #4 06-19-2017, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by packs

I think you're reaching when you compare Kaepernick to Curt Schilling. What could they possibly have in common? Schilling denies that racism exists in a city where Tom Yawkey was forced to allow an African American player to play....in 1959. What is your common thread between them other than they're two people who said things?

Schilling was/is very outspoken about his disgust with Obama. That's why he was fired - he went against ESPN's leftist ideals.

Edit: Well, it was that, and his comments about Islam/Conservative views in general.

packs · #5 06-19-2017, 02:43 PM

But how does that relate at all to Kaepernick? He knelt during the anthem. He didn't disparage anybody and he listened to criticisms about how he could go about his protest in the most respectful of ways, like kneeling instead of sitting down. All Schilling has ever done is double down any time someone doesn't like what he says. He hasn't spent a second considering how he might get his message across in a respectable way, not that I think there could possibly be a respectable way for him to make his views known, none of which I understand.

CollectingAmericasPastime · #6 06-19-2017, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by packs

But how does that relate at all to Kaepernick? He knelt during the anthem. He didn't disparage anybody and he listened to criticisms about how he could go about his protest in the most respectful of ways, like kneeling instead of sitting down. All Schilling has ever done is double down any time someone doesn't like what he says. He hasn't spent a second considering how he might get his message across in a respectable way, not that I think there could possibly be a respectable way for him to make his views known, none of which I understand.

How does it relate? Two people each have a job. Both are good/bad at their respective job, depending on who you ask. One crosses ESPN's ideals, and is fired. The other crosses fan/front office ideals, and isn't getting many looks for employment. Both were political statements that could divide people.

I'm not sure I understand the second half of your comment, as it's contradictory and very closed-minded, neither of which make for a good or clear argument.

packs · #7 06-19-2017, 03:16 PM

I'll just agree to disagree with you there. Kaepernick's problem is that teams view him as a potential distraction, Schilling's is that there's a lot of hatemongering in him and he makes people uncomfortable. He's insulted the transgender community, the African American community, the scientific community, the Muslim community, it just goes on and on.

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