National Booth(s) Needed

Rich Klein · #1 06-28-2017, 03:44 AM

I'll disagree with one thing. One of the reasons a couple of people are in carts is on the off-chance something occurs on the other side of the floor which needs their attention, they can get their much quicker. That's also why the booths of the dealer executive board is in the middle of the show floor. That way, the dealer board can fan out and assist anywhere at a minute's notice.

I have, and always will, provide constructive criticism of certain aspects of the National or where the show has been held (IE Atlantic City). but there are logical reasons for people such as John and the security head of the National to be in golf carts and I guarantee you it's NOT to lord over the show. And yes, in the spirit of full disclosure I know John and his family for more than 35 years now and they all work extremely hard throughout both the year and during the show on the National.

As for corporate sponsors, I also remember the days of no such thing (or very limited) as a corporate sponsor but that ship sailed a long time ago. The National could not exist in it's current state without the corporates. And many of the corporates, especially Panini (for us) have provided assistance to our twice a year Adat Chaverim non-profit show.

LuckyLarry · #2 06-28-2017, 06:13 AM

The show promoters and dealers don't care about collectors. If they did, the National would return to other parts of the country (west coast and south). The only thing that will cause this change is pressure from the corporate sponsors. I'm actually surprised that the corporate sponsors haven't demanded a west coast show.
Larry

Rich Klein · #3 06-28-2017, 10:00 AM

We had a long thread on this when Mike Berkus was still living and he commented on some of the issues with the National. To paraphrase our president: Who knew the National could be so complicated. I'll try to get that thread up in a bit.

Here is the thread from 2009 -- some salient points still operational

http://net54baseball.com/showthread....ht=Mike+Berkus

edjs · #4 06-28-2017, 10:14 AM

I thought this was a thread about Rhys needing a booth.

Duluth Eskimo · #5 06-28-2017, 11:36 AM

If the national was about collectors Rhys would have a booth. The national would exist if there was no full time national staff. Collectors are what drives the show, not a bunch of guys who think they know what's best. One of the main reasons why people don't attend anymore is because the show has only been held in Chicago, Cleveland, or AC. People on the west coast say screw it. The show staff doesn't care because they have their Panini money.

ALR-bishop · #6 06-28-2017, 03:59 PM

CU discussion

https://forums.collectors.com/discus...ational#latest

itslarry · #7 06-28-2017, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

If the national was about collectors Rhys would have a booth. The national would exist if there was no full time national staff. Collectors are what drives the show, not a bunch of guys who think they know what's best. One of the main reasons why people don't attend anymore is because the show has only been held in Chicago, Cleveland, or AC. People on the west coast say screw it. The show staff doesn't care because they have their Panini money.

Well why don't all the "real collectors" have one out west? No corporate sponsors, no full time employees, just collectors and traders.
Sounds like a cinch

Rich Klein · #8 06-28-2017, 04:31 PM

I'm trying to read the tea leaves between this board and the CU discussion as to when the tables/booths were sold out. My guess is that sometime very early this year the last available booth was sold.

As Rhys said, he waited till March to call only to find out he was on the waiting list.

I would think, going forward, Rhys might reserve a table/booth for the National at an earlier time and if he can not set up, then off-load the table/booth. That is, if his schedule permits him to know that far out. If not, then the suggestion I made might be the answer.

Also, I do agree that Rhys has a fairly unique specialty and therefore would add quite a bit to the show.

But sometimes, planning wins out.

Rich

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