W600 Sporting Life Cabinet Honus Wagner PSA 7..wow

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities

There are other HOFers that were just graded as part of this collection as wel. The only reason why they are 1/0 is because PSA just started differentiating the four different mounts. All of these cards were known to exist.

Condition wise, this is the finest collection of W600 Hall of Famers that I know of. I would love to see them come to the market.

Now that PSA gives a better description on W600s by including the Cabinet mount type, wonder how much would they charge to reholder ones graded before the change? This one of Cy is type 2

[Baseball Rarities]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

This one of Cy is type 2

That is a Type 1.

[benchod]

As usual, thanks to Kevin and Scott for sharing their knowledge

[jerrys]

I wrote to Joe Orlando yesterday to inquire about the new way PSA has listed W600s on their pop chart. As follows:

Jerry Spillman 10:48 PM (21 hours ago)
to Joe

Hi Joe,

Just observed your latest graded W600 cabinets. Noticed the design type has been added to all these newly graded cabinets - after all these years. All the previously graded cabinets are now disregarded even though many are exactly the same design type. Why must rare cabinets deceptively made to appear unique on the PSA pop chart when they are not. Why be dishonest with the collector who depends on an unbiased pop list. SHAME.

In browsing the first few new W600s on the pop chart I find:

Frank Chance - Uniform-Type 1* - scan shows Chance in Street Clothes - not in uniform.
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John Chesbro - NY AL Type 2 below John Chesbro NY AL - they could be the same type - making 1 of 1 false.
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Ty Cobb - Type 4* ALL Cobb W600s are type 4. How can this new cabinet be different than the Cobb listed above this new 1 of 1?
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Should I go on?

Jerry

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Joe Orlando 12:11 PM (8 hours ago)

to me


We can handle this over the phone.
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You have my number.
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Joe

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I know the Chance picture is incorrect but that has nothing to do with PSA.

I called earlier today - no response.

Apparently he is not able to defend the change.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Call me a Pollyanna, but somehow I don't think coming in with both guns blazing is necessarily the best approach...

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by jerrys

I wrote to Joe Orlando yesterday to inquire about the new way PSA has listed W600s on their pop chart. As follows:

Jerry Spillman 10:48 PM (21 hours ago)
to Joe

Hi Joe,

Just observed your latest graded W600 cabinets. Noticed the design type has been added to all these newly graded cabinets - after all these years. All the previously graded cabinets are now disregarded even though many are exactly the same design type. Why must rare cabinets deceptively made to appear unique on the PSA pop chart when they are not. Why be dishonest with the collector who depends on an unbiased pop list. SHAME.

In browsing the first few new W600s on the pop chart I find:

Frank Chance - Uniform-Type 1* - scan shows Chance in Street Clothes - not in uniform.
*
John Chesbro - NY AL Type 2 below John Chesbro NY AL - they could be the same type - making 1 of 1 false.
*
Ty Cobb - Type 4* ALL Cobb W600s are type 4. How can this new cabinet be different than the Cobb listed above this new 1 of 1?
*
Should I go on?

Jerry

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Joe Orlando 12:11 PM (8 hours ago)

to me


We can handle this over the phone.
*
You have my number.
*
Joe

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I know the Chance picture is incorrect but that has nothing to do with PSA.

I called earlier today - no response.

Apparently he is not able to defend the change.

Exactly... That's what I was saying. What's going to happen to everyone who has paid for their service? Are they going to have two different pop charts on literally the same card and mount.

[orly57]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

Exactly... That's what I was saying. What's going to happen to everyone who has paid for their service? Are they going to have two different pop charts on literally the same card and mount.

They are listed separately. All Cobb's are type 4, but now that they are caraloging by types, they appear separately.

[darwinbulldog]

Isn't this always what happens when a grading company adds precision to the identification of a card? T206s have backs in the reports now. Previously they didn't. Never mind factory numbers. Would it be better for them not to refine their identification of the cards to reflect greater collector interest in cartophilic minutiae? They can't go back and make up the missing data now from variables previously ignored.

[irv]

Originally Posted by jerrys

I wrote to Joe Orlando yesterday to inquire about the new way PSA has listed W600s on their pop chart.
Joe Orlando 12:11 PM (8 hours ago)

to me


We can handle this over the phone.
*
You have my number.
*
Joe
..............

I called earlier today - no response.

Apparently he is not able to defend the change.

Curious, Jerry, if you ever received a return phone call or if you called again?

[jerrys]

Hi irv,

No further calls. I am sure when he answered me he was unaware of what I was complaining about. After learning what it was he could not do or admit anything.

I am a customer and expect an answer - I will persist.

[irv]

Originally Posted by jerrys

Hi irv,

No further calls. I am sure when he answered me he was unaware of what I was complaining about. After learning what it was he could not do or admit anything.

I am a customer and expect an answer - I will persist.

Good for you! I know the odds are likely against you but I hope you receive a reasonable and acceptable response.