Thoughts on this? (Round 2)

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by botn

Thanks for pointing out the prior sale, Jesse. True that anyone buying the card as a 6 has only themselves to blame but the description was more than just hype or fluff that we typically see. Classifying the surface gouge as diminutive is more than an exaggeration.

True, but I never expect an AH to be too critical of a card's flaws. Not good for the bottom line or the consignor. Any time a visible flaw is mentioned at all I assume it's worse than described. That's why that green cobb stood out to me. I have never seen another auction in which the site said a card did not deserve its assigned grade.

[botn]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

True, but I never expect an AH to be too critical of a card's flaws. Not good for the bottom line or the consignor. Any time a visible flaw is mentioned at all I assume it's worse than described. That's why that green cobb stood out to me. I have never seen another auction in which the site said a card did not deserve its assigned grade.

I have seen REA describe a card as not deserving the grade. Even if an auction house does not go that far, I do not recall regularly seeing one actually hype a card that is glaringly over graded. Maybe I do not read enough auction house descriptions or maybe I do not read them closely enough.

I do not expect an auction house to be too critical of its consignments but I do expect them to not misrepresent.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by botn

I have seen REA describe a card as not deserving the grade. Even if an auction house does not go that far, I do not recall regularly seeing one actually hype a card that is glaringly over graded. Maybe I do not read enough auction house descriptions or maybe I do not read them closely enough.

I do not expect an auction house to be too critical of its consignments but I do expect them to not misrepresent.

Perhaps I'm more cynical than you, but I expect anyone trying to sell me something, including an auction house, to gloss over an items flaws, and try to focus attention on the positive attributes. Creative wording to make a flaw seem less severe, while not completely honest, is pretty common from what I've seen on ebay and in AH descriptions. And is certainly not limited to our hobby.

If the description had read something like this card has major surface issues, is way off center, and looks trimmed as well as over graded I would have appreciated the honesty. However it would prevent me from considering them for my next consignment.

[Sean]

I started a thread in May about how overgraded some of the Cub HOFs were in that Memory Lane auction. I even called about the Joe Tinker batting card that appeared to have a fingerprint on the top of the card. The individual that I spoke with told me that "there is an issue with the top right border that probably kept the card from grading a seven."

Perhaps, but it still shouldn't have gotten a six either. It was more like a three.

[iwantitiwinit]

It resurfaces again for a mere $1500 more. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-T206-Ch...4AAOSwbmdZhdxt