Is this ebay seller selling switched PSA graded cards?

[swarmee]

I don't see anything wrong with the holders. Seems like a bad accusation. Just because the flips aren't new doesn't mean they weren't graded by PSA. Probably only 20% of PSA graded cards have the hologram on them. Most people won't send in their cards to get reholdered just to get the new flip style.

[Davino]

Originally Posted by swarmee

I don't see anything wrong with the holders. Seems like a bad accusation. Just because the flips aren't new doesn't mean they weren't graded by PSA. Probably only 20% of PSA graded cards have the hologram on them. Most people won't send in their cards to get reholdered just to get the new flip style.

okay, do you think the card should grade a 10?

[swarmee]

I think 10 is generous on the Johnny Bench due to a soft bottom right corner and a possible scratch/PD line on the right border. However, I am sure that PSA graded it that way.

[pokerplyr80]

I don't think many people today would bother sending an 83 donruss Bench in for grading. Not worth the fees. Maybe that card sold for more when it was submitted. Looks fine to me.

[Peter_Spaeth]

There are some newer flips in his completed auctions, he probably just has a ton of older inventory he is still trying to move. I have bought from him and never had any concerns.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Topps-T...QAAOSwDn5Zeiz7

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Topps-5...sAAOSw6ShZXSrV

[Davino]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

There are some newer flips in his completed auctions, he probably just has a ton of older inventory he is still trying to move. I have bought from him and never had any concerns.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Topps-T...QAAOSwDn5Zeiz7

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Topps-5...sAAOSw6ShZXSrV

ah, ok

[KingFisk]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I don't think many people today would bother sending an 83 donruss Bench in for grading. Not worth the fees. Maybe that card sold for more when it was submitted. Looks fine to me.

That card in that case exists strictly for the registry.

[Sierra79]

Always look at the card...not what is printed on the flip. Many 10s exhibit major flaws that really illustrates how much time, or in some cases expertise is put into these things. Also, it was posted over on FCB that someone had dropped 18k on a Jordan PSA 10 RC only to find out from PSA that the slab and the card were fake...and that was with a new flip. Always look past the 'grade'...same thing with coins and/or anything else graded by a TPG.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Sierra79

Always look at the card...not what is printed on the flip. Many 10s exhibit major flaws that really illustrates how much time, or in some cases expertise is put into these things. Also, it was posted over on FCB that someone had dropped 18k on a Jordan PSA 10 RC only to find out from PSA that the slab and the card were fake...and that was with a new flip. Always look past the 'grade'...same thing with coins and/or anything else graded by a TPG.

OUCH!!

Are you talking about their brand new slabs like this Mantle is in?

[irv]

Originally Posted by Sierra79

Always look at the card...not what is printed on the flip. Many 10s exhibit major flaws that really illustrates how much time, or in some cases expertise is put into these things. Also, it was posted over on FCB that someone had dropped 18k on a Jordan PSA 10 RC only to find out from PSA that the slab and the card were fake...and that was with a new flip. Always look past the 'grade'...same thing with coins and/or anything else graded by a TPG.

Just reading your post again, are you saying the slab was fake as well or are you saying the new slab was compromised in some way and the fake card was inserted?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eMC2eZs6NE

If their new slabs are being compromised already it would certainly make those that are thinking about sending their cards in for a reslab, to think again.

[Davino]

Originally Posted by swarmee

I think 10 is generous on the Johnny Bench due to a soft bottom right corner and a possible scratch/PD line on the right border. However, I am sure that PSA graded it that way.

The card is not a 10, there are flaws. There are marks on the top line, too.