Ashamed - Topps T206 Buy Back Fraud

[uniship]

Sorry if I missed it, but where exactly were the new Topps "holders" obtained from?

[uniship]

One more thing, obviously this guy messed up big-time. I would be much more forgiving and understanding if he would truly apologize and also provide an explanation of the scope of all that was involved so we would have some sort of idea if this was nothing to worry about or a massive volume.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Once more, with feeling.

18 U.S.C. § 1343: Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, transmits or causes to be transmitted by means of wire, radio, or television communication in interstate or foreign commerce, any writings, signs, signals, pictures, or sounds for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both. If the violation affects a financial institution, such person shall be fined not more than $1,000,000 or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Once more, with feeling.

18 U.S.C. § 1343: Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, transmits or causes to be transmitted by means of wire, radio, or television communication in interstate or foreign commerce, any writings, signs, signals, pictures, or sounds for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both. If the violation affects a financial institution, such person shall be fined not more than $1,000,000 or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.

But Peter, that only applies if what Larry did is fraud. As David has so eloquently explained, all the attorneys are wrong because we don't know the law and it isn't fraud because ... he said so.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Kenny Cole

But Peter, that only applies if what Larry did is fraud. As David has so eloquently explained, all the attorneys are wrong because we don't know the law and it isn't fraud because ... he said so.

I'm done with his nonsense. Maybe he can go argue with someone that the earth is flat as I said before. I have encountered people like this before -- the more you show them they are wrong, and the more people who oppose them, the more fiercely they cling to their position. It's a waste of time.

[mighty bombjack]

Originally Posted by uniship

Sorry if I missed it, but where exactly were the new Topps "holders" obtained from?

It seems the guy just bought a bunch of the 99-cent autographs and 'relic' cards that were included in the set, which were framed in the same frames (stuff like a Cristian Guzman bat sliver card or Jorge Julio autograph, practically free on eBay these days). He cut those open, threw away the card, and replaced it with a t206, somehow replacing the plastic cover (which can't be that hard to do, really).